am i to old now to have an agent? because im not getting very far at the moment without one
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In my humble opinion Hunny
"Nobody is ever too old for anything"
Do some research and pick a goodun tho.
Good luck hun.
Myson
"Nobody is ever too old for anything"
Do some research and pick a goodun tho.
Good luck hun.
Myson
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Cornish Chris
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Hi Hunny,
I'm not being critical and I understand its your right to set your rates.
However as a producer I find them really hard to follow and some seem
very low whilst others seem way too high...but as I said you set your rates.
I think in general these days most models include signing a model release
within their rates as 2257 compliance makes this a must have document.
Hope this helps you understand a bit why some peeps might be confused about booking you, and its not critism just advice that you asked for.
Finally I agree with Myson age should never be a barrier.
Good Luck
Regards
chris@uk-pornogirl.com
I'm not being critical and I understand its your right to set your rates.
However as a producer I find them really hard to follow and some seem
very low whilst others seem way too high...but as I said you set your rates.
I think in general these days most models include signing a model release
within their rates as 2257 compliance makes this a must have document.
Hope this helps you understand a bit why some peeps might be confused about booking you, and its not critism just advice that you asked for.
Finally I agree with Myson age should never be a barrier.
Good Luck
Regards
chris@uk-pornogirl.com
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Sam Slater
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I doubt an agent will get you more work really. Most agents have just about given up apart from Walpole.
Age shouldn't be an issue but being a pornstar is a 18-25 year olds job. If you're any good at it, you can carry on into your 30's. Of course there are older adult models because there's a market for them, but mainstream pornstars are younger, and thus mainstream shoots are looking for younger girls.
Maybe you could get contacts off other models you meet on shoots who are around the same age? Word of mouth gets more jobs than an agent can in this country.
Age shouldn't be an issue but being a pornstar is a 18-25 year olds job. If you're any good at it, you can carry on into your 30's. Of course there are older adult models because there's a market for them, but mainstream pornstars are younger, and thus mainstream shoots are looking for younger girls.
Maybe you could get contacts off other models you meet on shoots who are around the same age? Word of mouth gets more jobs than an agent can in this country.
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Sam Slater
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Ok, I've looked at your site and 3 things stand out for me. Here goes....
1) Where are the sample pics of you? I see a few tiny pics of you at the BGAFD party, but where are the proper portfolio pics to give photographers & directors an idea of what they're paying for? As a photographer I wouldn't have a clue what your figure looked like, what your bum, or legs looked like.
2) Your rates are all over the place. Continental is ?60ph (seems reasonable), but it's ?90ph for solo? So shoving a dildo up your pussy is ?30 cheaper per hour than straight solo stills with no insertion? You also put boy/girl shoots at ?180ph yet DP at ?120ph? Is that ?120 extra onto the ?180 for BG? If thats right then a DP shoot would be ?300ph right? Some girls are on set for 8 hours. I can't see anyone paying you ?2400 for a DP scene. Also a GG group scene is ?250ph! It's ?150ph for a GG scene but add on another girl and you charge the extra ?100ph?
3) You're 37 years old. From what I can make out from the tiny pics, you look well for 37. However when you concider that most stars in the industry are 10-15 years younger, they have better samples of themselves & previous work, and they're much cheaper to book, then these are the reasons you're not being booked regularly. I'd be suprised if you got booked for 'any' professional hardcore shoots at all. I'd guess the only work you get offered are BG shoots with some overweight, sweaty 50 year old photgrapher as the male talant, am I right? Some seedy git who just wants his cock sucked while he films it?
Firstly I'd scrap the rates page altogether. It's like looking at the elements table in chemistry. Also remember that most pro directors/photographers will book hardcore GG & BG scenes, 'per scene', and not per hour. Only amatuers booking studios 'per hour' book models 'per hour'. A 'scene' is sex with a girl/guy in a location with a certain outfit. If you change talent/location/outfit then the director may be trying it on, and getting another scene out of you. It's not common, but watch out for it.
A pro director might shoot 2-3 scenes in a day and have to wait around for other models having make up done, or people who are late, or the male talent's having 'wood issues'. He/she's just going to pay you a set fee for the day & if it takes 3 hours then cool, if it takes 8 hours then so be it, but you don't get paid extra to sit around while someone else is having their make up touched up. Some days you get easy jobs, and some days you get harder jobs. Thats the industry, and what all the girls in it, cope with.
Also get some more sample pics on your site. Make sure they're big & clear, and from various angles. A few facial shots, topless, full frontal, side on & bum shots are fine. You can add a few GG or BG clips from previous work, but it's not essential.
Hope this helps, and good luck....
1) Where are the sample pics of you? I see a few tiny pics of you at the BGAFD party, but where are the proper portfolio pics to give photographers & directors an idea of what they're paying for? As a photographer I wouldn't have a clue what your figure looked like, what your bum, or legs looked like.
2) Your rates are all over the place. Continental is ?60ph (seems reasonable), but it's ?90ph for solo? So shoving a dildo up your pussy is ?30 cheaper per hour than straight solo stills with no insertion? You also put boy/girl shoots at ?180ph yet DP at ?120ph? Is that ?120 extra onto the ?180 for BG? If thats right then a DP shoot would be ?300ph right? Some girls are on set for 8 hours. I can't see anyone paying you ?2400 for a DP scene. Also a GG group scene is ?250ph! It's ?150ph for a GG scene but add on another girl and you charge the extra ?100ph?
3) You're 37 years old. From what I can make out from the tiny pics, you look well for 37. However when you concider that most stars in the industry are 10-15 years younger, they have better samples of themselves & previous work, and they're much cheaper to book, then these are the reasons you're not being booked regularly. I'd be suprised if you got booked for 'any' professional hardcore shoots at all. I'd guess the only work you get offered are BG shoots with some overweight, sweaty 50 year old photgrapher as the male talant, am I right? Some seedy git who just wants his cock sucked while he films it?
Firstly I'd scrap the rates page altogether. It's like looking at the elements table in chemistry. Also remember that most pro directors/photographers will book hardcore GG & BG scenes, 'per scene', and not per hour. Only amatuers booking studios 'per hour' book models 'per hour'. A 'scene' is sex with a girl/guy in a location with a certain outfit. If you change talent/location/outfit then the director may be trying it on, and getting another scene out of you. It's not common, but watch out for it.
A pro director might shoot 2-3 scenes in a day and have to wait around for other models having make up done, or people who are late, or the male talent's having 'wood issues'. He/she's just going to pay you a set fee for the day & if it takes 3 hours then cool, if it takes 8 hours then so be it, but you don't get paid extra to sit around while someone else is having their make up touched up. Some days you get easy jobs, and some days you get harder jobs. Thats the industry, and what all the girls in it, cope with.
Also get some more sample pics on your site. Make sure they're big & clear, and from various angles. A few facial shots, topless, full frontal, side on & bum shots are fine. You can add a few GG or BG clips from previous work, but it's not essential.
Hope this helps, and good luck....
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Hunny I notice you seem to be interested in the bdsm scene, I would have thought there was work for a model of any age (almost) in this genr;e, a lot of the spanking, bondage sites are always looking for models, I,ll try and come up with a list and mail it to you.
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thank you all for your advice its much appreciated
Hunny Marsh
Over n Out
Hunny Marsh
Over n Out
another day, another dollar
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hi there,
I do have portfolio pictures, and they are good quality, but I need new ones, and its becoming ever so difficult in getting fresh ones.
As for old geezers wanting to take pictures of me, I pass on there offers, id rather not do that kind of work.
I know im 38 not 18 or 28, but im not dead yet, and still have plenty to give, and plenty of potential, I dont put bum shots or any other close ups on my site, this was from some advice I was given by someone else, were you just get perves wacking off to them.
Maybe I should just give up. Or change my line of work.
Anyhow, thanks for talking the time to reply to my message.
Hunny Marsh
I do have portfolio pictures, and they are good quality, but I need new ones, and its becoming ever so difficult in getting fresh ones.
As for old geezers wanting to take pictures of me, I pass on there offers, id rather not do that kind of work.
I know im 38 not 18 or 28, but im not dead yet, and still have plenty to give, and plenty of potential, I dont put bum shots or any other close ups on my site, this was from some advice I was given by someone else, were you just get perves wacking off to them.
Maybe I should just give up. Or change my line of work.
Anyhow, thanks for talking the time to reply to my message.
Hunny Marsh
another day, another dollar
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Sam Slater
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I don't think you're too old to give up. I'm too old to start playing football for my home town team. I'm too old to score a hatrick for England, but you're lucky. Anyone can do porn to some degree.
To put things into perspective, you're DP rate -over 8 hours- is higher than Carmen Luvana or Jesse Jane's! These girls are contracted for the biggest companies in 'the valley'.
As for guys whacking off to bum shots....... All pornstars have erotic style samples on their portfolio sites. Some guys will whack off to anything and there are plenty of free 'hardcore' porn pics/clips on the net for them to whack off to. There aren't thousands of surfers hanging around just waiting for you to put a few innocent bum shots up.
A few samples from Jesse Jane & Carmen Luvana's websites:
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Whoever told you to not put bum shots on your site to advertise yourself is totally off the mark.
To put things into perspective, you're DP rate -over 8 hours- is higher than Carmen Luvana or Jesse Jane's! These girls are contracted for the biggest companies in 'the valley'.
As for guys whacking off to bum shots....... All pornstars have erotic style samples on their portfolio sites. Some guys will whack off to anything and there are plenty of free 'hardcore' porn pics/clips on the net for them to whack off to. There aren't thousands of surfers hanging around just waiting for you to put a few innocent bum shots up.
A few samples from Jesse Jane & Carmen Luvana's websites:
/ / /
Whoever told you to not put bum shots on your site to advertise yourself is totally off the mark.
[i]I used to spend a lot of time criticizing Islam on here in the noughties - but things are much better now.[/i]