Planeterotica,
How Ben got into camerawork was when I cast him as the cheeky cockney chappie, photographer in Models 1982. I put some Ecktachrome Professional in his camera and told him to really take some pictures, instead of clicking the shutter. Anyway some of them were excellent so I gave Ben a chance on the video camera. We were using ENG equipment and shooting off the shoulder as well as using a tripod. That is why he is good because I was his mentor. Facial shots are the most important images in an erotic film because they show emotion.
Mike.
I hate Yank Porn
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eroticartist
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Mick Handy
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Eroticartist ... i'm not having a go at you directly it's all producers of HC porn so please don't take anything personal ... (-:
I just check out that link you posted and to be honest it still looks like every other porn vid out there ... of course without seeing it all i can't make a total judgement on them.
And you say you do anal cause you like it ... well we're not buying your stuff to see what you like, yes some girls do like facials and CIM but in reality most girlfriends and wifes do not like it and won't do it hence men buy porn to see that and jerk the monkey ... and again i come back to self jerking why the fuck do you do it ..... producers please answer this, you've all been very quite on this subject ... why ... is it because you know i'm right, it's the best way to kill a scene.
As to close ups .... Ok some people do like that but to allow the camera man to spend far to much time filming that is wrong, men that buy porn wanna see the girl after all that's what you spend your money on for the good looking girls so why filming all that close up stuff.
I think the problem is you've all falling into a rut and you think this all that we wanna see or your just lazy.
Another point bought up here .... cameramen or guys off camera speaking to the girl or guy while there shagging ... what the hell is that all about, i do not wanna hear a guy chatting away while i fuck my babe and there's no need for it in video .... a cameraman is just a device to hold the camera not a chat box. If you have some direction to give then stop the camera or edited it out
Eroticartist says ....
and what I am trying to do is to examine a female in an analogous way as in real life......
Well when your shagging your bird do you get your head 12" away from her asshole or pussy (well if can do that then your very flexible) the point is no, it's not real life.
When it comes down to it it is being lazy with no imagination ... if you apply the same standards to porn as the main stream films and it doesn't need to cost a fortune you will make better films get a higher reputation and more loyal customers.
I lay down this challange to producers ... i will direct a film for you and when it's finished you'll see what i'm going on about ... it takes a bit of time to work out how to film and direct it .... do any off you bother to do a rough storyboard so you know your angels before you even set up the camera.
Lets brings some quality back to porn and lets do it soon.
MH
I just check out that link you posted and to be honest it still looks like every other porn vid out there ... of course without seeing it all i can't make a total judgement on them.
And you say you do anal cause you like it ... well we're not buying your stuff to see what you like, yes some girls do like facials and CIM but in reality most girlfriends and wifes do not like it and won't do it hence men buy porn to see that and jerk the monkey ... and again i come back to self jerking why the fuck do you do it ..... producers please answer this, you've all been very quite on this subject ... why ... is it because you know i'm right, it's the best way to kill a scene.
As to close ups .... Ok some people do like that but to allow the camera man to spend far to much time filming that is wrong, men that buy porn wanna see the girl after all that's what you spend your money on for the good looking girls so why filming all that close up stuff.
I think the problem is you've all falling into a rut and you think this all that we wanna see or your just lazy.
Another point bought up here .... cameramen or guys off camera speaking to the girl or guy while there shagging ... what the hell is that all about, i do not wanna hear a guy chatting away while i fuck my babe and there's no need for it in video .... a cameraman is just a device to hold the camera not a chat box. If you have some direction to give then stop the camera or edited it out
Eroticartist says ....
and what I am trying to do is to examine a female in an analogous way as in real life......
Well when your shagging your bird do you get your head 12" away from her asshole or pussy (well if can do that then your very flexible) the point is no, it's not real life.
When it comes down to it it is being lazy with no imagination ... if you apply the same standards to porn as the main stream films and it doesn't need to cost a fortune you will make better films get a higher reputation and more loyal customers.
I lay down this challange to producers ... i will direct a film for you and when it's finished you'll see what i'm going on about ... it takes a bit of time to work out how to film and direct it .... do any off you bother to do a rough storyboard so you know your angels before you even set up the camera.
Lets brings some quality back to porn and lets do it soon.
MH
Mick Handy
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I like a close up, I just feel to many movies are biased too heavily towards close ups.
I remember one scene in UK Student House where you didn't see the girls face once, that is just lame and not value for money.
As someone else has said on this thread the face shows emotion, the eyes are the window to the soul etc, I just enjoy the movie more if I get to see the girls face and I don't enjoy endless shots of cocks, cunts and arses.
I remember one scene in UK Student House where you didn't see the girls face once, that is just lame and not value for money.
As someone else has said on this thread the face shows emotion, the eyes are the window to the soul etc, I just enjoy the movie more if I get to see the girls face and I don't enjoy endless shots of cocks, cunts and arses.
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one eyed jack
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Oh dear god no! Not that old porn is crap stuff again! There seems to be a serious frustration with regards to this subject.
I for one am not bothered as I know if I went out there looking for porn I would be spoiled for choice straight away...Theres enough porn out there suitable for all tastes ranging from safe standard watch with the girlfriend stuff to eye watering skull fucking stuff.
I just think people come on here to have a good moan
Well moan away
I for one am not bothered as I know if I went out there looking for porn I would be spoiled for choice straight away...Theres enough porn out there suitable for all tastes ranging from safe standard watch with the girlfriend stuff to eye watering skull fucking stuff.
I just think people come on here to have a good moan
Well moan away
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Mick Handy
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well it's a shame the the point punters are trying make is falling on deaf ears .... Yes your right there's lots of porn out there to cater for all tastes but your missing the point .... it's the way you guys film it thats pissing us off.
MH
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Mick Handy
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Ok one eyed jack, what would you recomend?
I like British girls, lots of hard fucking, anal and dp.
Lots of face shots, good camera angles and well lit.
Don't like too much emphasis on close ups.
Really dislike fishooking, face slapping and face spitting although am cool with spanking.
Current faves: Roxy Rare and Amber Rox.
Your quick to critiscise me for expressing an opinion, are you able to be constructive?
I like British girls, lots of hard fucking, anal and dp.
Lots of face shots, good camera angles and well lit.
Don't like too much emphasis on close ups.
Really dislike fishooking, face slapping and face spitting although am cool with spanking.
Current faves: Roxy Rare and Amber Rox.
Your quick to critiscise me for expressing an opinion, are you able to be constructive?
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aj-strictlybroadband
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As someone with access to most British porn out there to dip into, I'd recommend the Fuck Me and the Slam It series' by Harmony, and also everything by **********. Both beautifully filmed and lit, but with some of the hardest non slap-centric action around.
At a glance - Harmony:
and **********:
Those are the first two I can think of - feel free to hone your requirements for further suggestions if you've checked them out.
AJ
> Ok one eyed jack, what would you recomend?
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> I like British girls, lots of hard fucking, anal and dp.
>
> Lots of face shots, good camera angles and well lit.
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> Don't like too much emphasis on close ups.
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> Really dislike fishooking, face slapping and face spitting
> although am cool with spanking.
>
At a glance - Harmony:
and **********:
Those are the first two I can think of - feel free to hone your requirements for further suggestions if you've checked them out.
AJ
> Ok one eyed jack, what would you recomend?
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> I like British girls, lots of hard fucking, anal and dp.
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> Lots of face shots, good camera angles and well lit.
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> Don't like too much emphasis on close ups.
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> Really dislike fishooking, face slapping and face spitting
> although am cool with spanking.
>
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c.j.jaxxon
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What Up Sam! I haven't seen enough british and euro porn to comment but I do agree on the US porn though. !sherlock!
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c.j.jaxxon
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I agree with you Mick. When you say "self jerkers" do you mean solo women who masturbate or I believe you might mean men who pull out then "jerk" off to cum?
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c.j.jaxxon
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I think that's what we all mean. We like to see a close up of a woman's face but not necessarily genitalia.