I've always been miffed by the way Steve Jones was rather overlooked when his role in The Pistols was absolutely massive.
In fact, even though Lydon was undoubtedly the focal point, I reckon Jones's driving riffs made the Pistols the huge tour de force that has made them THE enduring band from the 70's punk movement.
Even the overrated Clash come a distant second or third by my reckoning.
McLaren's nonsence spouting on about how the band members couldn't even play (with the exception of Sid) was just that - nonsence.
Jones, Matlock and of course the terrific Paul Cook all played with such energy and gusto that they virtually tore up the rock 'n' roll manual and started a new form of rock all on their own.Vive Steve Jones, Vive the Pistols!
ps If you've never heard Did you no wrong by The Pistols, you ain't heard pure rock at it's peak, believe me!
Steve Jones - Sex Pistol No.1
Re: Steve Jones - Sex Pistol No.1
I think it's at the end of the 'Filth And The Fury' film there is a special thanks to Chris Thomas who produced Bollocks and built the 'panzer division' guitar sound. The point was made in the punk programme that was on ITV4 on Sunday night that after Glen Matlock left the quality of the songs nosedived, and even without Thomas' production there is some good guitar work on the demos. Yes, i'd agree with you .. I think Jones is held in more esteem in the US but he's overlooked in UK.
Here's a thought that occurred to me and i'm not having a go at the Clash .. it's their own business but they were avowedly left wing and politically committed and yet thet never had collective songwriting credits and equally shared royalties. It was Strummer/Jones, Strummer or Jones and the occasional effort from Simonon. I think it always reflects well on bands who have an even split.
Here's a thought that occurred to me and i'm not having a go at the Clash .. it's their own business but they were avowedly left wing and politically committed and yet thet never had collective songwriting credits and equally shared royalties. It was Strummer/Jones, Strummer or Jones and the occasional effort from Simonon. I think it always reflects well on bands who have an even split.
Re: Steve Jones - Sex Pistol No.1
Jonone wrote:
thet never had
> collective songwriting credits and equally shared royalties. It
> was Strummer/Jones, Strummer or Jones and the occasional effort
> from Simonon. I think it always reflects well on bands who have
> an even split.
Whilst the credits were Strummer/Jones, the royalties were split equally during the bands vinyl output.
Since the re-issues on CD and compilations, the royalties go to the individual songwriter.
Not all songs were Strummer/Jones, but were credited to them, even though they were solo efforts. Should I Stay ot Should I go is a Mick Jones effort, and ALL of Combat Rock is credited to The Clash so all got equal royalties.
The biggest selling one at the time was drummer Topper Headons 'Rock the Casbah'. Paul Simonon's only output was the weakest one on London Calling; Guns of Brixton.
Just wait till I start on the Steve Jones thread part!!
thet never had
> collective songwriting credits and equally shared royalties. It
> was Strummer/Jones, Strummer or Jones and the occasional effort
> from Simonon. I think it always reflects well on bands who have
> an even split.
Whilst the credits were Strummer/Jones, the royalties were split equally during the bands vinyl output.
Since the re-issues on CD and compilations, the royalties go to the individual songwriter.
Not all songs were Strummer/Jones, but were credited to them, even though they were solo efforts. Should I Stay ot Should I go is a Mick Jones effort, and ALL of Combat Rock is credited to The Clash so all got equal royalties.
The biggest selling one at the time was drummer Topper Headons 'Rock the Casbah'. Paul Simonon's only output was the weakest one on London Calling; Guns of Brixton.
Just wait till I start on the Steve Jones thread part!!
The West London of my youth is now on dvd
I've met the man on the street............and he's a cunt
I've met the man on the street............and he's a cunt
Re: Steve Jones - Sex Pistol No.1
Steves killer riffs were complimented by Glen Matlocks own musical ability and lyrics. Lydon is credited with many of the lyrics, but its Glen who wrote Pretty Vacant and God Save The Queen.
Steve pissed off to LA after the demise of his other great band, The Professionals and subsequently played with various bands really achieving little recognition.
His addiction to Heroin saw him nosedive musically, but his Mercy album is excellent, whereas his Fire & Gasoline album is too US Heavy Rock for many fans.
Sex Pistols reunion saw him back on form, but no new material due to squabbling backstage with Lydon and Matlock.
Get the Classic Album series, Making of Never Mind The Bollocks. Jones is a very funny bloke, who reminds me of a dodgy second hand car salesman
Steve pissed off to LA after the demise of his other great band, The Professionals and subsequently played with various bands really achieving little recognition.
His addiction to Heroin saw him nosedive musically, but his Mercy album is excellent, whereas his Fire & Gasoline album is too US Heavy Rock for many fans.
Sex Pistols reunion saw him back on form, but no new material due to squabbling backstage with Lydon and Matlock.
Get the Classic Album series, Making of Never Mind The Bollocks. Jones is a very funny bloke, who reminds me of a dodgy second hand car salesman
The West London of my youth is now on dvd
I've met the man on the street............and he's a cunt
I've met the man on the street............and he's a cunt
Re: Steve Jones - Sex Pistol No.1
algarve addick wrote:
> ps If you've never heard Did you no wrong by The Pistols, you
> ain't heard pure rock at it's peak, believe me!
Hmmmmmmm, intresting selection. Whilst its very good, its not close to the underplayed Satellite in my opinion.
I have Did U no Wrong on a solo Steve album with Axl Rose on vocals.......much harder version than Pistols'
> ps If you've never heard Did you no wrong by The Pistols, you
> ain't heard pure rock at it's peak, believe me!
Hmmmmmmm, intresting selection. Whilst its very good, its not close to the underplayed Satellite in my opinion.
I have Did U no Wrong on a solo Steve album with Axl Rose on vocals.......much harder version than Pistols'
The West London of my youth is now on dvd
I've met the man on the street............and he's a cunt
I've met the man on the street............and he's a cunt
Re: Steve Jones - Sex Pistol No.1
The sex pistols B sides were great my own fave being "satelite" and a great version of the stooges "no fun" too.Ace wrote:
> algarve addick wrote:
>
> > ps If you've never heard Did you no wrong by The Pistols, you
> > ain't heard pure rock at it's peak, believe me!
>
> Hmmmmmmm, intresting selection. Whilst its very good, its not
> close to the underplayed Satellite in my opinion.
> I have Did U no Wrong on a solo Steve album with Axl Rose on
> vocals.......much harder version than Pistols'
>
>
> algarve addick wrote:
>
> > ps If you've never heard Did you no wrong by The Pistols, you
> > ain't heard pure rock at it's peak, believe me!
>
> Hmmmmmmm, intresting selection. Whilst its very good, its not
> close to the underplayed Satellite in my opinion.
> I have Did U no Wrong on a solo Steve album with Axl Rose on
> vocals.......much harder version than Pistols'
>
>
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Simonon might have got a bundle from the Beats International track that sampled Guns Of Brixton .. was it 'Just Be Good To Me' ?
Simonon was in the papers recently for allegedly having a dalliance with Serena Rees one of the partners of the Agent Provocateur deluxe lingerie line. The other partner and Rees' husband is Joe Corre, son of Vivienne Westwood. Not Malcolm's son, but I think he would have been brought up as such.
Simonon was in the papers recently for allegedly having a dalliance with Serena Rees one of the partners of the Agent Provocateur deluxe lingerie line. The other partner and Rees' husband is Joe Corre, son of Vivienne Westwood. Not Malcolm's son, but I think he would have been brought up as such.
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Re: Steve Jones - Sex Pistol No.1
What's your point?
What has that statement got to do with Jones' lack of recognition in his contribution to the Pistols?
NOTHING AS USUAL - same as your daft response to the 'Borat Overrated' thread.
Move along, you buffoon.
What has that statement got to do with Jones' lack of recognition in his contribution to the Pistols?
NOTHING AS USUAL - same as your daft response to the 'Borat Overrated' thread.
Move along, you buffoon.