I can't agree that 'In my Secret life' is that only good song on that album - I think that 'Boogie St' and 'Alexandra Leaving' are really good songs and stand up well alongside some of his other great songs. I do agree however that 'Various Positions' is a much underrated album, and can remember when it was released and was slagged off by all the trendy, right on critics who called him a dinosaur- the same ones who are hailing him now as a genius - Trends change eh?.
On to Dylan, I thought Love and Theft was awful, so disappointing after 'Time out of Mind', but he has redeemed himself with 'Modern Times' which I think is a great album.
As to these lists I'm afraid my tastes are still firmly stuck back in the sixties and seventies and I don't listen to anything else - I don't have the tolerance, patience, interest or curiosity anymore- so these lists only reflect what I was listening to when I was seventeen, eighteen etc. My son tries to get me listen to some modern stuff, but it all sounds so tired - let's face it, it's all been done before. In fact I have had more of an influence on him music-wise than he has on me - he loves Dylan, Cohen and Waits and is far more receptive to my tastes than I am to his - sad, but then again I'm a cantankerous, cynical and skeptical old bastard which probably stems from listening to Dylan, Cohen et al when I was a young, sturdy lusty young male.
As well as liking the more mature entertainer, I also have a fondness and preference for the more mature porn star, British preferably, but any well rounded, bountiful and attractive lady who looks as if she's been cocked more times than Davy Crockett's rifle, does it for me
Desert Island Discs
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Rude Boy wrote:
> If you check out www.iommi.com or www.black-sabbath.com you'll
> find out all the latest news on the "Heaven And Hell" tour. At
> the moment I think it's just the dates in Canada that are
> confirmed. I would love to have seen Bill Ward on the tour but
> it's going to be awesome.
Bill's health is not what it was, and no-one wants him to become another victim of past rock n roll excesses. Officially, doesn't he just want to tour as part of Sabbath?- but unofficially, he wants a break and maximum respect to him for that.
> If you check out www.iommi.com or www.black-sabbath.com you'll
> find out all the latest news on the "Heaven And Hell" tour. At
> the moment I think it's just the dates in Canada that are
> confirmed. I would love to have seen Bill Ward on the tour but
> it's going to be awesome.
Bill's health is not what it was, and no-one wants him to become another victim of past rock n roll excesses. Officially, doesn't he just want to tour as part of Sabbath?- but unofficially, he wants a break and maximum respect to him for that.
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"Bill's health is not what it was, and no-one wants him to become another victim of past rock n roll excesses. Officially, doesn't he just want to tour as part of Sabbath?- but unofficially, he wants a break and maximum respect to him for that."
I know he's very loyal to Ozzy and that it freaks him out to play in any incarnation of Sabbath other than the original line-up although I think his playing on "Born Again" is phenomenal. I saw him last year at Aylesbury Civic Centre (The warm-up for the Download festival) and he was great but playing two hours of Sabbath on drums must be quite a work-out! Especially after having a heart attack!
I saw Rush a couple of times on their recent tour and I was stunned at how Neil Peart could do a three hour show playing music that complex including his legendary solo. But then Neil Peart IS God.
I know he's very loyal to Ozzy and that it freaks him out to play in any incarnation of Sabbath other than the original line-up although I think his playing on "Born Again" is phenomenal. I saw him last year at Aylesbury Civic Centre (The warm-up for the Download festival) and he was great but playing two hours of Sabbath on drums must be quite a work-out! Especially after having a heart attack!
I saw Rush a couple of times on their recent tour and I was stunned at how Neil Peart could do a three hour show playing music that complex including his legendary solo. But then Neil Peart IS God.
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Rude Boy wrote:
> I saw Rush a couple of times on their recent tour and I was
> stunned at how Neil Peart could do a three hour show playing
> music that complex including his legendary solo. But then Neil
> Peart IS God.
In a friendly sense-because we have agreed on everything so far- I would draw your attention to 'Moby Dick' and 'Bonzo's Montreux'.
We thought he had so much longer. So did he.
> I saw Rush a couple of times on their recent tour and I was
> stunned at how Neil Peart could do a three hour show playing
> music that complex including his legendary solo. But then Neil
> Peart IS God.
In a friendly sense-because we have agreed on everything so far- I would draw your attention to 'Moby Dick' and 'Bonzo's Montreux'.
We thought he had so much longer. So did he.
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"We thought he had so much longer. So did he."
If only. What more can be said about Bonham? I'd say he was the greatest hard rock drummer of all time in terms of power and groove but Neil Peart is superior technically. I think at this level of prowess nobody is "Better" than anybody else, they are all utterly superb, masters of their craft. I personally think Bonham's masterpiece was "Achilles Last Stand." It says it all that he was never replaced.
If only. What more can be said about Bonham? I'd say he was the greatest hard rock drummer of all time in terms of power and groove but Neil Peart is superior technically. I think at this level of prowess nobody is "Better" than anybody else, they are all utterly superb, masters of their craft. I personally think Bonham's masterpiece was "Achilles Last Stand." It says it all that he was never replaced.
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I think he was the greatest drummer ever- and the Buddy Rich anecdote tells you why I think that. But I respect your view- you have great taste in music.
Sadly, the Bonzo-Ozzy champagne anecdote brings two great bands together in a great bit of trivia- but ultimately leads to a sad finish.
Sadly, the Bonzo-Ozzy champagne anecdote brings two great bands together in a great bit of trivia- but ultimately leads to a sad finish.
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"Sadly, the Bonzo-Ozzy champagne anecdote brings two great bands together in a great bit of trivia- but ultimately leads to a sad finish."
Oh do go on...you can't leave it there! I know Bonham hung out at "Atrocity Cottage" (Ozzy's farmhouse in Staffordshire) but I've not heard any of the anecdotes.
There's no record of Ozzy ever hanging out with Keith Moon, imagine that! If you haven't already got it I strongly suggest you try and get hold of a book called "How Black Was Our Sabbath" written by two of Sabbath's roadies during the seventies. It is both fascinating and hilarious.
Oh do go on...you can't leave it there! I know Bonham hung out at "Atrocity Cottage" (Ozzy's farmhouse in Staffordshire) but I've not heard any of the anecdotes.
There's no record of Ozzy ever hanging out with Keith Moon, imagine that! If you haven't already got it I strongly suggest you try and get hold of a book called "How Black Was Our Sabbath" written by two of Sabbath's roadies during the seventies. It is both fascinating and hilarious.
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OK. As you may know, the bands vaguely knew each other prior to fame- Percy allegedly first met Ozzy in the then Wolverhampton music venue of Lafayettes in 1967, when Ozzy walked around with a toilet seat round his neck....
When the Sabbath played their first US tour in 1970, the Zeppelin were already established and were on tour out there. When the Sabs got to LA, Ozzy received a call to attend a Beverly Hills restaurant....
Upon arrival, he found Bonzo, a heavy-to stop them being interrupted- and case after case of champagne.
'Made the US at last, Ozzy' said Bonzo. 'Lets have a race...'
This may have been where the Pythons' Mr.Creosote sketch came from. Ozzy passed out on his 17th bottle of champagne. Bonzo drained his and was helped away. Bottle number 24.
When the Sabbath played their first US tour in 1970, the Zeppelin were already established and were on tour out there. When the Sabs got to LA, Ozzy received a call to attend a Beverly Hills restaurant....
Upon arrival, he found Bonzo, a heavy-to stop them being interrupted- and case after case of champagne.
'Made the US at last, Ozzy' said Bonzo. 'Lets have a race...'
This may have been where the Pythons' Mr.Creosote sketch came from. Ozzy passed out on his 17th bottle of champagne. Bonzo drained his and was helped away. Bottle number 24.
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A wise head on young shoulders, Alice