Muslims

[c.j.jaxxon]

You hit it on the head partner!

[c.j.jaxxon]

That is scary. I wonder what BeestonBoy thinks of that?!

[c.j.jaxxon]

Agreed! We had some christians (or a christian) here in the US that bombed an abortion clinic back in the 1990's so it works both ways in this so called "religion".

[Mojo]

Anyone ever watch "The Siege"? This has been my sollution to the Muslim problem for a number of years now. Round 'em all up and ship 'em back to where they all call homes.

[BeestonBoy]

A very good point well made and alot more rational that my some what....well lets be honest here crazed rant!!

I know it is not as cut and dry as I maybe made it seem. But it was frustrating watching these people talk as if the July 7th never happened and the police were just going around nicking Muslims for the hell of it. Look in court No1 of the Old Bailey this week and you will see a "cell" on trial. Arrested because of these raids.

You are certainly right about the Irish connection. Even now I hear "Irish catholic " I think IRA or just assume that they will automatically hate me just for being British. But what are you going to do about that? Surley its human nature to be weary of people in general,but hey even better if you can narrow it down to a Specific race,colour,creed or nationality,right?

The bottom line for me is,Al Queda is here and very much amougst. We all know why its here. (which is why i personaly cant belive that Blair would rather have head lines about UK born and bred terrorists that are purely his fault. Than head lines about a few bent MPs) But I truely believe we need to stop it at any cost.

But hey look at the state of me grammer and punctuation. Never learned how to right proper but think I know how to save the world lol

Cheers all

BB

[Steve R]

Well said!

[Sam Slater]

I agreed with everything you said until this:

[quote]the worst example is the existence and support given to the State of Israel which by rights had no business to come into being and was founded on the back of a great deal of violence perpetrated by Zionists.[/quote]

Founded by a great deal of violence?............So how did the Muslim world happen to lay claim to the land in the first place? Non-violent debate? Nope, the land has been taken during war, and re-taken with war for over 2000 years.

Who are we to tell Jews that violence to retake their land is wrong, when violence was used to take the land away on numerous occasions over the last 2000 years by Assyrian, Egyptian, Roman, Christian, Muslim and Ottoman invasions?

Palestinians need to become educated about their own history. They were only polytheistic, Greek settlers who held a tiny bit of land around Gaza and northern Egypt. It was only between Assyrian invasions and Jewish counter invasions that the original Greek Philistines moved further and further north. They lived quiet happily under Jewish rule.

It was only once the Assyrian/Arab warriors accepted Islam, and drove the Jews out did the Philistines denounce their multiple gods and also accept Islam so they could live in peace with their ruling Muslims. The Muslims were invaders, and the Philistines adopted a religion for their own benefit.

What pisses me off most is that much of the original Gaza is now Egyptian land, but no ones -including the Palestinians seem to mind, nor mention it. All the while blowing up Jewish children at bus stops because they think the West Bank is their land. It's bollocks. The West Bank is nowhere near Gaza, and the Philistines neither farmed nor took the land by force.

They don't bomb Egyptian children at bus stops because Egyptians aren't Jewish.

It's not about land, it's about Islamic influence and power. Maybe Palestinians should forget about the West Bank and ask Egypt for the other 60% of Gaza back eh? Nope, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Iran won't let that happen because they want Islamic power in the region.

I'm not condoning Israeli heavy handed tactics. I just get pissed off when people assume Israeli's are on Palestinian land. Things aren't so black and white.


Sorry, was I waffling again? !whistle!

[BeestonBoy]

But a very very enjoyable waffle. Like a Birds eye one with beans and an egg on in fact!! Learnt alot from that Sam,thankyou. Going to read up on alot of the points you just made. Not to contradict any of them just to try and improve my knowledge a little on some thing that like many people in this coutry have ignored to a cerrtain degree. Why? Because its not happening on my door step!! How shamefull is that?

Cheers chap

BB