dvd question

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Allan

dvd question

Post by Allan »

Is dvd porn regional, as in region 1 or are they universal as in 0.

Just wondered, as region 0 i belive can be seen on any dvd player world wide and as such cheaper to make and sell, but if its region 1 or is it 2 for the uk, it means that only uk dvds can view them .

I understand that for cinima films its used to prevent us dvds being sold in the uk untill they wish it, though we all know you can still get them and chip a dvd, but I was wondering if dvds had be regionalised or not.
joe king

Re: dvd question

Post by joe king »

alec

Re: dvd question

Post by alec »

As has been said on this forum a gazillion times already -

Porn DVDs from the USA are region 0

Porn DVDs from Europe are either region 0 or region 2, depending on whether or not the manufacturer has world rights (or something like that), but in either case they can be viewed on British DVD players.

And before someone goes on about having to have an NTSC to PAL converter yet again, this is most unlikely to be necessary.

With some French companies like Colmax, for example, region 0 discs tend to be NTSC while region 2 discs tend to be PAL. Marc Dorcel discs tend to be NTSC. IN Germany Ribu, Tabu, MMV tend to be PAL but the one XY DVD I've seen is NTSC.

But the PAL/NTSC question for DVDs is not usually relevant in the UK as you have to have a pretty old TV set not to be able to play NTSC DVDs to it. In the USA it is much rarer to have a set up that can cope with PAL.
Dibble

Re: dvd question

Post by Dibble »

You're dazed and confused Allan.

You ask "if DVDs can be regionalised or not?" But you had already answered that question in the previous sentence - "it means that only UK DVDs can view them."

And why should region O DVD's be any cheaper to make or sell? Whether a disc is region 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4 is determined in the authoring software. It costs nothing to select either option. All DVD discs cost exactly the same to "make" at the pressing plant, regardless of their content, or options.

Regional coding is a total non-issue, as most decent players will play anything. All but the most technically illiterate movie fans will have such a player and those who don't are probably the sort who go into Comet or Dixon?s and ask for "a DVD player please." The equally technically illiterate salesman called 'Darren' will have seen them coming a mile off and will have been rubbing his hands with glee at the thought of unloading another crap Amstrad machine (or whatever the most down market brand is nowadays) without to much hassle!

Dibble.
carl

Re: dvd question

Post by carl »

as far as i'm aware porn DVDs are region 0, which is region free.


but a lot of DVDs are made in the ntsc format. so you should check your tv is compatable, most are these days. and you can't copy ntsc DVDs to tape either, even if you have disabled macro.
Allan

Re: dvd question

Post by Allan »

Hi

Sorry for the confushion.

Yes, I know about different places have different regions.

But I have been told that there is a universal region (i thought is was 0), that plays on any machine.

The reason why its chaeaer to make a universal dvd rather than regional is odviouse, you only have to print one copy to suite all countries. Having a regional versiion meens that you have to print off a different copy for each country, even if this means only very minor changes.

Its a bit like me going to the printers and saying print me 100,000 posters, it will be charged less if all 100,00 are the same, if I say I want 50,000 of them a bit different I will be charged more.

As I have said for main stream films and possibly firms like private there are reasons to make films regional. Also for legal resons there may be reasons to make a film regional such as one county may not allow certain senes.

But, as I said, for say a small firm in the uk, it would to me make more sense to have the dvd un-regional so that you can sell it in any county. For a small firm to make a film regional, unless they are going to sell lots of copies, it will add to expense to make films regional.

Thats why I asked are uk porn films made regional, and why, as in, it there a legal reason or a marketing reason, or technology reason.
Allan

Re: dvd question

Post by Allan »

This is what I thought.

I thought 0 was universal
1 was usa
2 uk and europe
and so on

As for mainstream films, regional 1 (usa) have dts sterio, while regional 2 (UK) tends to only have dolby. Most mags only review the regional 1 films as these are considered better.

The reason regional dvds were made was due to (1) the release date, usa films tend to be launched several months before uk, and (2) because the firm that distributes a film in the uk is not always the same as ones in the usa, and as such one firm will loose out on sales.

But for dvd uk porn, release date does not matter, nor does distribution as chanses are it will be the same company.

It is also more expensive as I said to burn of different copies of a dvd espeshially when your sales are not going to be in the millions.
Allan

So the answer is:

Post by Allan »

So Carl has answered my question and has said that yes uk dvd porn is regional 0 or universal.

I fully understand about regionalisation in dvd mainstran films (I worked in a cinima for a long time and know a lot about that side). But my question was on dvd porn not dvd mainstram films which due to marketing is regionalised.

Thank you all for the replies, as it is interesting to me how the dvd porn market has treated dvd regionalisation.

I think its also worth noting for those who or ordering dvds say from the us, if they will need to chip there dvds or not. If us dvd porn is also regional 0 then you should have no problems.

DVD is in some ways more at home with porn than mainstream films, due to the fact that more angles and options can be added. On a normall film this would be anoying, but on porn this gives mnore interaction.

Allan
benspal

USA porn is NOT all region 0

Post by benspal »

I have bought porn from the US that is region 1. Not all porn from there is region 0,though the vast majority is. I thought I ought to point that out to the good folks of this forum.
alec

Re: USA porn is NOT all region 0

Post by alec »

Thanks. I think I've seen one exception too, but I suspect you have to go to a pretty obscure producer to find a new region 1 DVD - or a DVD that included hard core but for 'artistic merit' was not regarded as porn. I do remember seeing a Hustler video on a retailer's website that was said to be region 1, though the website may have made a mistake. Any producer aware of the fact that most US retailers have websites which ship internationally and hoping for those retailers to carry their product would produce region 0 DVDs.
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