The program about global warming on C4

[Jacques]

Hmmmmmm.......electric car......how do we make the electricity for it without producing an environmental impact somewhere alnog the line?

[crofter]

Is there actually such a thing as global warming though?? Not so long ago it was the next Ice Age just around the corner well they got that one wrong. Where is the prove that we as humans are going to cause apocalypse if we don't change our ways?? The scientists are basing all this on everytyhing being relative and the earth continues to heat up over the next couple of hundred years, well going by the fact these cunts cannot evern produce an accurate local weather forecast for the following day how can we take their predictions seriously?? We humans must be very naive to think we can control "mother nature".
All these boffins/advisors just want to keep themselves on the gravy train that is the "Global Warming Theory" and this theory just seems to have been invented to make the Rich a fair bit Richer and in control and the Poor remaining Poor and repressed.
As this programme pointed out CO2 is a bye product of warmer weather and not the cause and most CO2 is produced via the Sea - humans only produce a minute amount in comparison. The sun seems to go through cycles of volatility and relative calm much like a volcano and whatever cycle it is going through has an effect on temperatures on earth, I mean that is bloody common sense.
There is a fault line in the Antartic that was not long ago discovered which caused all the old ice at the bottom to turn up and lay at the top, studies of this fault have shown that since thousands of years ago the temperature has been much higher and much cooler that it is now and the rise and fall in temperature more severe than we are experiencing now ... and you know what we are still here.

BTW we did not send anybody to the moon back in the sixties of that I am sure, when you think that Apollo was basically one massive computer network and think of the advances in personal computers from then to now I still do not believe that in the sixties we had anywhere near the technology to achieve this feat and if we did we should all be flying around in our own little space crafts now!!

[diplodocus]

biofuels would still produce carbon, solar panels are pretty ineffective too, you couldn't put one on your house and expect to get enough electricty to run the home; the best would be to provide some hot water. Wind turbines on houses the same issue - maybe ok in the countryside.

personally I think nuclear plus a reduction in energy usage is the only option along with a push to develop a hydrogen cell for transport.

I like the current ideas of phasing out the lightbulb ala Australia

[diplodocus]

BTW we did not send anybody to the moon back in the sixties of that I am sure

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[Bob Singleton]

Jacques wrote:

> Hmmmmmm.......electric car......how do we make the electricity
> for it without producing an environmental impact somewhere
> alnog the line?

Actually "electricity" can be generated in all sorts of ways... Hydro-electricity, wind farms, solar energy are but three such ways. It just happens that currently the cheapest and most efficient way of producing lots of electricity to put through the "National Grid" is by using fossil fuels (coal, oil or gas).

It is possible to create sufficient electric current to power a car to quite high speeds (120mph +) over long distances (400+ miles) using hydrogen fuel cells. The by-product of the process is water (which when heated becomes steam and is easily absorbed into the atmosphere). Amongst other manufacturers, both Honda and General Motors are at a fairly advanced development stage and the first proper mass market Hydrogen fuelled car could be a reality within the next 15-20 years.

[Steve R]

crofter wrote:


>
> BTW we did not send anybody to the moon back in the sixties of
> that I am sure, when you think that Apollo was basically one
> massive computer network and think of the advances in personal
> computers from then to now I still do not believe that in the
> sixties we had anywhere near the technology to achieve this
> feat and if we did we should all be flying around in our own
> little space crafts now!!


I'm very inclined to agree.

I'm old enough to have watched the whole thing at the time. As I was watching it, I felt like I was 'having the wool pulled over my eyes', as I actually noticed then some of the many anomalies that were brought to our attention years later.

[Jacques]

Just noticed that it is repeated tonight on More4 at 10pm.