warren zevon rip wrote:
> Will the millions who voted for her (not at the point of a gun,
> as I recall) be turning up as well? Or were they "only
> following orders"?
Given our wonderful (i.e. crap) first-past-the-post democracy, Thatcher, as with most British prime ministers, was elected by a minority of the population. She was an extreme polariser and widely hated, especially in the cities. Not everyone will celebrate her death, but millions will.
Thatcher speaks........twaddle as usual...
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heres a bit of a challenge, name 3 politicians post churchill that you can say mostly good things about and who made things better.
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harmonyluvver wrote:
> heres a bit of a challenge, name 3 politicians post churchill
> that you can say mostly good things about and who made things
> better.
Well, Churchill was a good war leader, but his domestic record is non-existent. There were two prime ministers in the last century who had a lasting effect on British society: Attlee (free health and education) and Thatcher.
But whoever you choose to credit, Britain's a nicer place than it was a century ago, despite all the stuff we still have to complain about.
> heres a bit of a challenge, name 3 politicians post churchill
> that you can say mostly good things about and who made things
> better.
Well, Churchill was a good war leader, but his domestic record is non-existent. There were two prime ministers in the last century who had a lasting effect on British society: Attlee (free health and education) and Thatcher.
But whoever you choose to credit, Britain's a nicer place than it was a century ago, despite all the stuff we still have to complain about.
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warren zevon rip wrote:
> >and
> > widely hated, especially in the cities.
>
> Seemed pretty damn popular to me...or aren't big towns in Essex
> counted?
As cities? No.
I agree with your points, but they're irrelevant to the point I was making. You're right, she was popular in parts of the country, and certainly more popular than any other political leader. But she was/is also widely hated. And that's why a party celebrating her death will be well attended.
> >and
> > widely hated, especially in the cities.
>
> Seemed pretty damn popular to me...or aren't big towns in Essex
> counted?
As cities? No.
I agree with your points, but they're irrelevant to the point I was making. You're right, she was popular in parts of the country, and certainly more popular than any other political leader. But she was/is also widely hated. And that's why a party celebrating her death will be well attended.
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Keith Rasputin wrote:
> Though Britain is a far far nastier and in a lot of ways more
> impoverished place than it was a mere 25 years ago...lol...
That would be 1982... 4 million unemployed, give or take. Children with ricketts. Wholesale closure of schools and hospitals. Nah - even Blair's Britain is a step up from there.
> Though Britain is a far far nastier and in a lot of ways more
> impoverished place than it was a mere 25 years ago...lol...
That would be 1982... 4 million unemployed, give or take. Children with ricketts. Wholesale closure of schools and hospitals. Nah - even Blair's Britain is a step up from there.
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