CPWM - hardcore?

[joe king]

page 82 - Mr Sheridan talks about the myth of hardcore in 'Come Play with Me' and a deathbed(shortly before his death) confession about the hardcore. DS blames HM and HM blames DS for the explicit sex. Mr Sheridan says it is easy to tell in the abridged lesbian sequence of MM and Penny Chisolm - 'the scene grinds to an almight halt'. Remington steel in a previous post said there was no HC.

[nobbler]

I remember seeing in either Whitehouse or Playbirds around the time that the film was released, some photos of Mary Millington and Penny Chisholm, in the lesbian scence mentioned. If I remember correctly, the caption said note the blurring around the hands etc. , this was due to the intensity of MM and PC who were apparently going full chat!!!. I don't remember this sequence being in the released version, but the only way to find out is for the films owner to release it.

[Robbie D]

I recently found an old and rather tatty copy of this magazine in which MM is very keen to promote the film at every oportunity.
Produced at this time, was "The strongest book & magazine ever produced!" The Playbirds erotic film guide.Issue 1, being of cours CPWM.This is a quote from the ad.
"Issue 1 features entirely the story (short story form and EXTREMELY strong) of Mary's new film COME PLAY WITH ME plus THE STRONGEST

[joe king]

DS has made a living bullshitting with his softcore mags/films - this 'myth' is more reliable. Of course in aug 2000 he had the cash(and balls) to get (some type of)hardcore legalised.

[Robbie D]

Sorry about that, I got so excited, that I prematurely posted!
The quote should have read...
"Issue 1 features entirely the story (short story form and EXTREMELY strong) of Mary's new film COME PLAY WITH ME plus THE STRONGEST UNCENSORED PHOTOS FROM THE FILM.These specifically feature Mary and a dozen or more girls in the most bizarre sexsposes - that's why the film is cert XXX - plus featuring stills from the export version of the film produced specifically for Germany, Holland, Denmark and Sweden where pornography is FULLY LEGAL."
The ad continues with pictures censored with the usual black circle over the 'offending articles' "This fully uncensored publication SPECIFICALLY CONTAINS GROUP SEX SEQUENCES with group penetration, fist ducking, oral sex etc.Two men making love to a girl at once! Actual multiple orgasm shots!"
There is a bit more about massage parlour relief, oral relief and female masturbation, you get the picture.So this confirms it! THERE WAS A HARDCORE VERSION! It must be true, after all MM wouldn't lie, surely?.....

Rob.

P.S. excuse my ignorance, but what the hell is "fist ducking"??

[jj]

Fist fucking. Another DS euphemism like 'Greek'/'German'/
'Albanian'/'Portugese'/'Venezuelan' etc.
Not that any of these, even the made-up ones, ever appeared in any of his stuff.......

[magoo]

Joe. Your surely not saying that it was DS who got h/c legalised? Or have I misunderstood your post?

[joe king]

yes, Mr Sheptonhurst Ltd is DS

Disclaimer:
I am not an expert. Some or all of this information might be wrong,misleading or totally false.


1.) BBFC Guidelines


2.) What the BBFC cut and list


3.) The R18 story


4.) How much does it cost to censor an R18?
Not clear to me but some info says
'. From 1 July 1999, the BBFC charge a flat fee of ?11.68 per minute for the first hour/?7.75 per minute for the 2nd hour for English-language works (there is a concession rate of ?7.80 per minute for the 1st hour/?5.20 per minute for the 2nd hour for subtitled works) to classify a tape, regardless of the number of copies sold'



5.) How do I obtain an R18?
At the moment R18s are only legally available from licensed sex shops with provisos. Importing hardcore material is restricted by Customs and Excise who have there own ideas about what is acceptable.
'Pornographic material other than that which depicts the type of consensual sexual activity between adults which can be legally purchased in the UK. '



6.) What is the difference between 18 and R18?
18 certified materials can be more violent, the sexual content is restricted due to context.




7.) What was the first R18 hardcore?
One of these:
Moving Violations (Prime Time)
Search for the Snow Leopard: Eve of the Hunt (Prime Time)
Wicked Cover Girls (Prime Time)
Buck Adams' Centerfold (Prime Time)

[magoo]

I did not know that Sheptonhurst was DS. I thought that that Greg bloke was behind it. The brummy bloke who has featured on C4 documentarys.

Thanks for the info Joe.