John Stagliano ? A Twat?
Back in the early 90?s when both myself and a pal started to take an interest in porn as a possible source of income, I recall being introduced to a new range of videos featuring a character calling himself ?Buttman?, aka John Stagliano. My pal was raving about them ? apparently they featured all the tastiest US stars, like Nina Hartley, Tracy Adams, Angela Summers, Dee Dee Reeves and the like, and also Brit stars like Louise Hodges, Misty McCain and Niki Sterling. But it wasn?t just the puka stars that had caught his eye, it was the revolutionary new format where Buttman and his sidekick Rocco would interact with the stars in the real world. We thought this was great, amazing even ? little realising at that point that this real world interaction with stars and the girls of one?s dreams would be the very thing that would, in time, ultimately devalued them, their contemporaries, and ultimately the whole business of producing erotica. A goddess was never meant to suck mortal dick.
But anyhow, apart from interacting with proper adult movie stars in ?the real world? the other defining feature about Buttman was his predilection for, and his focusing on, female ?butts? - or arses? in English. Which was also great as there were plenty of mighty fine arses? about in those days. Now, if you think about amazing asses you might immediately think of Nina Hartley, Misty McCain or Louise Hodges, but in those days it seemed almost anyone of the female gender had a notable arse i.e., full, soft, curvaceous, erotic, alluring, beguiling. This additional facet of John Stagliano?s work also had my pal?s unequivocal approval.
Fast forward fifteen years or so to the other day when my pal called round to shoot the breeze and have a cup of coffee ? ?real gourmet shit? as he would have it. Anyhow, the subject of Buttman came up and my pal?s mood immediately darkened. It seems he had been looking at some of Stagliano?s recent work, and he was not amused. Apparently, he?s found that of late Stagliano had been using eastern European models - having exhausted his supply of real adult stars in the mid 90?s and then, presumably his supply of trailer park sorts in the late 90?s. But the problem was that although East European girls were prettier, more feminine, and better turned out than contemporary Brit and US girls, they did not have ?butts? (or tits for that matter). So how could Stagliano continue to feature these girls in his movies and still call himself ?Buttman?? What good was a porn movie with no disernable tit or ass? Wasn?t that what porn was about ? tits and ass? But that?s not all, what really pissed my pal off was that Stagliano would do his usual thing of getting a foot away from a girl?s ass (or non-ass in this case) and start oohhing and aaarghing, framing the scene with his fingers, pulling non existent cheeks apart and going ?Wow, man, would ya? look at that? That?s amazing?. It was as if Stagliano was the fabled king with no clobber on and my pal was the little lad as he piped up. ?What you on about, you soft twat? She clearly hasn?t got a fuckin? ass! Are you fuckin? divi, or do think we are, you cunt? What?s your fuckin? game, man? How can you still call yourself ?Buttman?? Are you takin? the piss, or what??
So, as far as my pal was concerned, the once legendary Staliano was now a raving twat and deserving of a thump. This begs the question ? should folks quit while they are ahead? Or should they go on for the sake of it and let their image and legend be tarnished and eroded? If it?s the case that there are no longer any birds with amazing womanly asses should Stagliano have just stopped and called it a day? Might it have been better if his fans could look back nostalgically and bask in the untarnished glories of his classic ?asscapades??
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John Stagliano ? A Twat?
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Is this one scene or one of many that has offended your friend Officer? Hard to say but I'm sure Mr Staglianos love of the female derrier is intact. Maybe he is so mad on arses now that he isnt fussed as long as it belongs to some attractive woman on the planet. Thing is I've seen some fine eastern european arse in my time. Probably some of the finest from the european countries.
Jana Cova for one...Jirina...Remember her? A fine bubble butt that comely lass has got. There are quite a few others I could name but then it would just get boring.
Pray tell the name of said offending arse? Just curious is all.
Jana Cova for one...Jirina...Remember her? A fine bubble butt that comely lass has got. There are quite a few others I could name but then it would just get boring.
Pray tell the name of said offending arse? Just curious is all.
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No arse in particular, Tel. Apart from the odd few minutes (that was enough) I haven?t really looked at a contemporary Buttman movie for years. And frankly, all these east European birds seem to look the same nowadays - I don't know my Sandies from my Janas and Jirinas. They all look tidy - but that's it. Nothing more. I don't feel the slightest inclination to shag one. They don?t have much in the way of tits and ass - and when I talk about tits and ass I?m taking about, say, Niki Platts or Sarah Beatty. The kinds of women who can sill spark a desire for sex in blokes like myself. The current east European sorts just don't have that Carry On 'Phwooaar!!' factor - best exemplified by Kenneth O?Connor upon clocking a really shag-tastic bird.
When my pal came round and expressed similar sentiments to those I had been harbouring I thought ?Hey, this is a real concrete issue? and might be worth disusing on the bgafd forum.
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When my pal came round and expressed similar sentiments to those I had been harbouring I thought ?Hey, this is a real concrete issue? and might be worth disusing on the bgafd forum.
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I expect your mates just porned out Dibbs, Stagliano made some brilliant porn, I dont think you can get as famous as he did with that genre and not burn out. He came he saw and conquered and moved on, so many american porn stars and producer end up as slightly tragic figures, as far the European 'Ladies' some are stunning and some are skanks, I remember seeing a swedish bird and jokingly asking her if all swedish birds had great tits!, she replied " yes , but so do Russian, Turkish, Australian....you get the picture, anyway I shagged her a few times and 'lost' her, she had an expensive 'recreational' habit, but she did have a great ass.....speaking of which.
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My current favourite Euro girl.
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My current favourite Euro girl.
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"Also a couple of questions- is the friend Mr Dover by any chance?"
No, my pal is just a knowledgeable porn lover and, er, businessman. A Muslim, actually.
"And why does Buttman sometimes call Rocco Dario?"
Because that was the name of Buttman's sidekick - a character called Dario, who happened to be played by Rocco Sifredi. Though why they went through with that charade for so long when it was supposed to be 'reality porn' and everyone knew who Rocco was is beyond me.
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No, my pal is just a knowledgeable porn lover and, er, businessman. A Muslim, actually.
"And why does Buttman sometimes call Rocco Dario?"
Because that was the name of Buttman's sidekick - a character called Dario, who happened to be played by Rocco Sifredi. Though why they went through with that charade for so long when it was supposed to be 'reality porn' and everyone knew who Rocco was is beyond me.
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