Hospitals - Where's The Dough Gone?

[planeterotica]

warren zevon rip wrote:

> planeterotica wrote:
>
> > What makes this worse is that 90+ people are known to have
> died
> > unecessary in one hospital and not one senior minister was
> > available to make a comment on it, instead it was left to the
> > Junior Minister for Health to mumble a few words about how
> they
> > are getting on top of it, now god forbid but if these people
> > had died in a terrorist incident No Balls Brown would have
> been
> > shouting all over the house with condemnation but so far he
> has
> > said nothing about the 90 people who have died in Maidstone
> > maybe he dosnt think its important enough to even make a
> brief
> > statement
>
> Tell you wot, mate. Why don't you really stick it up Mr Brown
> by, erm, not voting at the next election...that'll show him!
> LOL NO Balls Graham?
>
planeterotica wrote:

You are correct once again warren i wont be voting for the cunt or any of his cronies, so its now No Balls Warren!bow!

[IG]

My view is that the standards that have dropped are in the basic nursing care. It's difficult to criticise nurses and there are reasons for it (staffing numbers, increased paperwork, etc) but they seem to care much less than they used to and that has led to the drop in the basic standards.

The cleanliness is a real issue as well. Again the basic standards of this have dropped with domestic staff seeming to think they are 'owed something' and the fact that they haven't cleaned something is never their fault it's 'staff shortages'. I'm so busy at work that I never take a lunch break or anything and yet their shifts are focused around when they'll get their breaks so they can moan some more and smoke fags! I'm generalising and some are excellent but you take my point.

Finally, in my experience staff do not react well when things are pointed out to them. Again they revert to type and moan about 'management' and 'staff shortages'. Obviously there are management and staff number issues but it isn't those issues that cause the day to day carelessness and lack of interest I'm afraid.

[Trumpton]

If hospital staff are unable to even undertake the most basic of hygeine procedures, then something is dreadfully wrong and needs rectifying immediately.

[Officer Dibble]

Thanks, IG. That's very interesting and confirms what I myself sense about Health Service staff caring less than in days gone by. Others have noticed too. Minette Marion, writing in the Sunday Times, had this to say...

"Except in the commercial sector, criticizing people?s efforts is frowned on and it?s extremely difficult to dismiss them; the fear of being sacked for incompetence is a thing of the long-distant past in the state sector. I imagine that?s why nurses often look so slaggy, with untidy hair falling over their faces, wearing hospital clothes in the street...

The culture of fear, in which matron would insist on spotless fingernails, perfectly made beds and every hair in place, disappeared long ago, along with a sense of authority and hierarchy in the wards. The same is true in schools and in public places and institutions generally."

Someone also pointed out that these snotty new university educated nurses seem to think that they are to elevated to clean up patients, and that they should leave all that to the lowly orderlies - who nowadays might not necessarily subscribe to 1st world standards of hygiene or general continuousness. And that's if there are any orderlies available, if not, it seems that these new trouser wearing nurses are quite comfortable about leaving patients to fester in their own mess.

Some of the issues we have touched on here are not just Health Service issues, but social issues. Although we are now richer and more technological advanced than ever, it seems that British society, encouraged by a cynical media and gutter press, have become coarser, more vacuous and oafish. These problems have been compounded by the failure and reluctance of many in the PC public sector to point the finger, criticize, and generally slag off those whose demeanor and standards of behavior, in the past, would have attracted withering condemnation. I?m fearful of what the future holds if British society carries on this way.




Officer Dibble

[Deuce Bigolo]

The otherside of the coin Dibble is that there are never going to be enough nursing staff for ever in a day so anyone employed would have to become a serial killer to get dismissed

Skilled staff basically have their employer over a barrel

Having said that the morale issue may also relate to pay
friend of mine(recently retired nurse)tells me that nursing staff get paid less than the cleaners in the hospital

Does make you wonder why you bother

[IG]

No offence Deuce but in terms of the NHS the view that cleaners get paid more than nurses is complete and total bollocks. Nurses pay is I think quite reasonable - it is the work conditions (shift work, early starts, late finishes, etc) that are the difficult part.

And (to a point) if you don't think you're paid enough for doing something then get another job that pays you more. If nurses then remain in the job, then it's your job. So your morale coming in each day should then be unaffected. It then becomes a personal pride issue of doing your best and knowing you're doing a good job and making a difference to people. It's the personal pride that is lacking you might argue?

[jj]

I love you, Dibsy, and want to have your babies.

[Officer Dibble]

Whayhey!




Officer Dibble

[jj]

OO-er, your naughty man.
Nice to you see you back, and in fine Ultra-Right-wing Fascist fettle.
I wll let Magoo know- he and the children have been desperately worried.

Now, what's all this I hear about the Child Support Agency?