I?m Backing Obama

[Bob Singleton]

Officer Dibble wrote:

I?ve been watching the old Presidential election campaign unfolding with some interest, as this time there?s real choice of candidates. Will the next President be a black man? ...

[SNIP]


I thought Obama was mixed-raced, not black... or did you mean black as in "not 100% white"?

Given his parentage, surely it's just as correct (or incorrect) to call him white?

It's important that mistakes made by "the media", such as calling Obama a black man, are not further perpetrated in forums such as these.

[Trumpton]

I thought he originally described himself as 'mixed race'?

[Sam Slater]

[quote]Is Irish really a race?[/quote]

It depends how you define race. Ireland is more Celtic in their DNA profiles than anywhere else in Europe, which have different physical characteristics than the Angles & Saxons (darker, stockier, more ruggedly built, heavier set jaws and bulbous noses - The Angles, a little fairer, taller, higher cheekbones, more feminine jaws in males, higher nose bridges - Saxons very similar to the Angles but a little darker -generally- in hair colour and shorter, more predisposed to gain weight easier).

Angle & Saxon dna in North Western Europe is so mixed up now that there really isn't separate races anymore, just individuals with more Saxon than Angle dna and characteristics, while the British are those mixed with Celt.

Western Ireland has a Celtic dominant fingerprint in it's gene-pool still, so you could argue that if you're going to define race by general, physical characteristic -and genetic- markers, in general Ireland is less genetically diverse than the British Isles and a different race to, say, the Icelandic peoples whole also haven't had much genetic diversity entered into their gene-pool.

'Race' is a funny word. To define a species is easy as you cannot have offspring with something that's a different species. The fact that an Icelandic Nord can propagate with an Aborigine tells us that they are so genetically similar, they are of the same species. Genetically they're very different. One can digest lactose throughout adulthood while the other cannot. One is at less risk from skin cancer than the other. One can process alcohol in the liver a lot quicker than the other......etc etc.

To say we are all the same, regardless of race is wrong. It's the attitudes to these differences that is troublesome and incorrect.

If you've read this far without falling asleep, you're mental.

[Sam Slater]

I think #2 is pretty outdated. Especially in multicultural Europe. The Irish are not a race, though it could be argued that the Celts are.

Anyway, why the name change?