Personal Carbon Credits

[Officer Dibble]

Bollocks to carbon credits! Let the luvvies reduced their emissions if they?re so fuckin? concerned. They could start by not jetting off to fucking France for a year in Provence or by not tossing themselves off in Tuscany. But of course they won?t hear of that ? they expect you to reduce your emissions instead. So fuck ?em!


Officer Dibble

[nikonman]

This appears to be another hairbrained idea thought up by a load of luvvies sitting on yet another committe . I wonder at what cost to the taxpayer.
Lets be honest it will be another way to screw more tax out of the working class.

One way to reduce carbon emissions would be be let a lot of the heavy lorries off the road by getting more freight back on to the railways even if subsidized. If the EEC will let us do that.
For a start The Royal Mail should be put back on the rail network has it used to be. Maybe this would not suit the chairman with his ?3m bonus. I hope he will be paying his full rate of tax on that . But i doubt it

Anyway that my moan for today and don't forget :
"It's the rich that get the pleasure and the poor that get the blame"

[Flat_Eric]

More pretentious "green" twaddle that won't make one jot of difference to climate change (maybe something like 0.0001 of 0.001% less carbon globally by 2050 or some such trifling amount).

It's nothing more than posturing and jumping on the latest fashionable bandwagon in order to curry favour with the muesli & free-range yoghurt brigade, champagne socialists, idealistic students and other "interested" potential voting blocs.

Let's face it, the only way to seriously reduce carbon emissions by any meaningful degree is to do the following:

1) Stop cutting down the rain forests.

2) Invest heavily, seriously and soon in renewable wind power, wave power, solar power etc. and stop fannying about with endless "feasibility studies" and pissy little "pilot projects".

3) Sort out the shambles that's the rail network, and shift as much heavy goods transport as possible off the roads and onto the railways

4) Get serious with the car industry and FORCE it to produce more environmentally-friendly vehicles NOW - not in 10 or 15 years time. (This won't happen though, because cars that consume far less petrol mean billions per year less in petrol tax revenue for the Exchequer - so it's far better for politicians to simply hand-wring and pretend to be "concerned for the environment" than it is to actually do something meaningful about it).

5) Employ whatever carrots and sticks necessary to persuade the growing economies in Asia (principally China and India) to get serious about tackling climate change.

These things need to be done NOW and at a global level - anything less (like these silly "carbon trading" schemes) is just tinkering meaninglessly round the edges.

- Eric

[Nob3y]

This is the way I see all this carbon foot print/ environmant issue.

ITs all a case of do as we say not as we do.

Why tell me that I cant fly,cant do this cant do that etc etc when the powers that be a sodding off on flights here there any everywhere and doing all the things that they tell us not to do to save the planet.

I say to the powers that be to get their own houses in order before tell us what to do.
Lead by example for once!!
Turn off your lights in your fancy office blocks when your not there.
use public transport instead of using the 4x4's
dont fly so much


so when you can do this then you will be in a position to tell others.
so I say fuck em

[Nob3y]

what about using the canals again for non urgent goods?

seems a good way to get some freight off the roads.

dont forget its easy to say get trucks off the roads and charge them for using roads etc
but
if you do this then the price of your goods will go up

[Steve R]

Climate change is caused by the sun.

How are they going to legislate against that?

[Deuce Bigolo]

No prizes for guessing who will end up paying through the nose for it

Already you see Celebrities and frequent fliers spouting how their doing their bit by buying plantations/forests to offset their carbon footprint
nice gimmick to make them feel good

We could all stop emitting tomorrow and very little would change.Its already a runaway train which makes the carbon tax nothing more than a revenue raising tool IMHOWe're already being held to ransom with oil.One can only imagine how much it will cost with a carbon tax factored in

When you read rainforest experiments like this one the future dont look all that rosy

[Guilbert]

>what about using the canals again for non urgent goods?

The maximum speed on the canals is 3 or 4 miles an hour.

Not sure that really cuts it in today's world.

[Robches]

Tim Yeo MP is one of the biggest cunts in Parliament (and I know that's saying a lot). Whilst the smug twat wants the little people to have carbon rationing, he flies round the world playing golf and writing about it in his column in the Financial Times. Two faced fuckers like him need a fucking golf club in the face. Come to think of it, he probably claimed the golf clubs on his expenses. The motherfucker needs feeding into a wood chipper feet first.

[Flat_Eric]

Robches wrote:

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The one that amused me was Green Dave jetting off to the Arctic Circle on a "fact-finding" mission to see how the polar ice is allegedly being melted by global warming allegedly caused by ..... errrrm ..... people jetting off to places!

Ditto all those political bigwigs and their entourages descending on Bali (in big, carbon-belching airliners) from all corners of the globe for a "climate conference".

I suppose it didn't occur to anyone to set an example to the plebs and hold a video conference instead (the technology exists of course, and no need for anyone to jet off anywhere).

- Eric