>With looks like this - what a scum bag.
I am the father of a 19 year old boy with a slight disability calld Dyspraxia.
While to many people my son looks "normal" he can sometimes appear rather strange and awkward.
I have to say my son looks a little like this lad, with that rather strange and awkward smile.
In your pictue this lad does not look like "scum" but a rather simple and slightly "backward" person.
I am not saying it condones burglary (if that is what he did) but I have seen quite a few lads that look "nasty" and I cannot say this lad looks "nasty" at all.
He may have just been "led along" by a bad crowd, often kids with disabilites like my son (on the Autusic spectrum) can be easily led.
As I said, I do not condone burglary, but I dont think in this case his "looks" make him seem a criminal type.
Be interesting if any disabiity comes out during the reporting of the cases
Burglar is stabbed to death
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Talking about his appearance and equating them with criminality merely reinforces that most discredited investigative tool - a copper's intuition.
For a further illustration of this see the story about the apology that has been made to the Everton striker Victor Anichebe who as a young black man was thought to be acting suspiciously merely be being outside a jewellers in Knutsford, Cheshire.
For a further illustration of this see the story about the apology that has been made to the Everton striker Victor Anichebe who as a young black man was thought to be acting suspiciously merely be being outside a jewellers in Knutsford, Cheshire.
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I know a local scumbag who looks like that.
He votes BNP, blames Blacks and Asians for his social inadequateness and drinks lager by the gallon.
Same old, same old.
He votes BNP, blames Blacks and Asians for his social inadequateness and drinks lager by the gallon.
Same old, same old.
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Hes not unlike a member of a tenage gang on my estate that hassled me years back asking for change knocking and kicking the door and running away asking for hankies its no good telling police they dont want to know
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Reggie Perrin wrote:
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That's all true Reggie. Can't argue with any of that.
But let's put you on the spot here:
An intruder has managed to get past your fancy locks and your alarm (if you have one). You don't know he's a burglar - he could indeed be a simple tealeaf, but equally he could be a sex attacker or a deranged homicidal psycho - you just don't know.
You get up in the middle of the night to go for a slash, and there he is, this dark shadowy figure looming at you out of the gloom on the landing. Maybe he's got something in his hand. And if he has, is it a weapon?
What would YOU do as shock and terror take hold? Wait for him to make the first move (and possibly kill or seriously injure you)? Make the first move yourself (and possibly kill or seriously injure him)? Ask him politely what his intentions are, and helpfully direct him towards the exit?
Tricky one isn't it?
- Eric
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That's all true Reggie. Can't argue with any of that.
But let's put you on the spot here:
An intruder has managed to get past your fancy locks and your alarm (if you have one). You don't know he's a burglar - he could indeed be a simple tealeaf, but equally he could be a sex attacker or a deranged homicidal psycho - you just don't know.
You get up in the middle of the night to go for a slash, and there he is, this dark shadowy figure looming at you out of the gloom on the landing. Maybe he's got something in his hand. And if he has, is it a weapon?
What would YOU do as shock and terror take hold? Wait for him to make the first move (and possibly kill or seriously injure you)? Make the first move yourself (and possibly kill or seriously injure him)? Ask him politely what his intentions are, and helpfully direct him towards the exit?
Tricky one isn't it?
- Eric
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Reggie Perrin wrote:
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Where did I say that I wanted to kill anybody?
If I disturbed an intruder who then promoptly legged it, I wouldn't go after them with the intention of beating the crap out of them and / or stabbing them (obviously).
But of somebody attacked me or my family in my own home, I'd have no qualms about defending myself - hopefully NOT with lethal force, but to be honest I'd worry about that later. I'd rather be inside than dead (or my family harmed).
The point I was trying to make was simply that unless you're put "on the spot", then you can't say with any certainty that you would or wouldn't take a particular course of action.
I do though think that it's wrong that intruders should have any "rights" whatsoever under the law once they break into someone's property. At the very least, the benefit of the doubt should be given to the home owner.
- Eric
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Where did I say that I wanted to kill anybody?
If I disturbed an intruder who then promoptly legged it, I wouldn't go after them with the intention of beating the crap out of them and / or stabbing them (obviously).
But of somebody attacked me or my family in my own home, I'd have no qualms about defending myself - hopefully NOT with lethal force, but to be honest I'd worry about that later. I'd rather be inside than dead (or my family harmed).
The point I was trying to make was simply that unless you're put "on the spot", then you can't say with any certainty that you would or wouldn't take a particular course of action.
I do though think that it's wrong that intruders should have any "rights" whatsoever under the law once they break into someone's property. At the very least, the benefit of the doubt should be given to the home owner.
- Eric
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Flat_Eric wrote:
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> rather be inside than dead (or my family harmed).
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I think the term is "Rather be tried by twelve than carried by six"
As I said previously, he made a choice, and left his rights at the property boundry. Your first duty when faced with an intruder is to 'eliminate the threat'. Wether thats chasing him off, punching him in the face, sticking a knife in him, or caving his head in, you do whatever it takes with any weapon at hand to eliminate the threat.
I'd
> rather be inside than dead (or my family harmed).
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I think the term is "Rather be tried by twelve than carried by six"
As I said previously, he made a choice, and left his rights at the property boundry. Your first duty when faced with an intruder is to 'eliminate the threat'. Wether thats chasing him off, punching him in the face, sticking a knife in him, or caving his head in, you do whatever it takes with any weapon at hand to eliminate the threat.
We have need of you again, great king.