1 in 7 school kids has English as a 2nd language..

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max_tranmere
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1 in 7 school kids has English as a 2nd language..

Post by max_tranmere »

Another week, and another one of these type stories in the press. I post these type things on here because I think it makes for an interesting debate. The Sun newspaper's front page today says one in seven primary school kids has another language as their main language and English as a second. The figure is one in ten for secondary school kids. This is a 25% increase on what it was 5 years ago. The Government do whatever they like, against the wishes of the vast majority of the population, and the public feel powerless to influence any of these things. The country is changing forever and people are upset and angered by it. I wouldn't be surprised if, within 20-30 years, the BNP are as big in Britain as the far-right lot are in France - namely getting about 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 of the votes - and it is all the fault of the main political parties who do whatever the hell they like and ignore the wishes of the public. People's views please...
Flat_Eric
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Post by Flat_Eric »

Max - surely you're not suggesting that the main political parties should actually be *accountable* to the electorate, are you?

Or that they should "listen" to people's views at any time other than in the run-up to an election??

Or that "multi-culturalism" isn't "the way forward" and that uncontrolled immigration does anything other than "enrich" the UK either culturally, socially or economically?!

- Eric

JonnyHungwell
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Post by JonnyHungwell »

Just because your first language isn't English doesn't mean you can't speak it. Thing is a lot of people with English as their first language can't speak English - they prefer some kind of Ali G patwah, know what I mean like? right, aye, respect, init!
JonnyHungwell
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Post by JonnyHungwell »

Most regional accents are pretty nasty when too strong and combined with local words that nobody else understands - although a slight accent is no real problem. What gets to me more is people who can't pronounce 'th' and come out with nonsense like 'I've been wiv me girlfriend for free years', then there are those who get all the tenses wrong - 'what we done yesterday is'!!!
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Post by Jonone »

Hungwell, is there no end to your crusades ?
colonel
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Post by colonel »

Hmm- this does include kids in North Wales, Highlands and Islands, y'know.
max_tranmere
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Post by max_tranmere »

I in 7 primary school kids, and 1 in 10 secondary school kids. In urban London the figure would be much higher.
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Post by randyandy »

The trouble with observations like these are that they always leave the door open for fuckwits who refuse to accept the obvious points being made.

Politicians and now the church are in real fear that the pathetic BNP are being looked at as a serious voting option in the European elections and that fear has come about because of their failure.

Dismiss the figures if you wish but if the BNP are elected in even one seat hang your heads in shame.

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Post by max_tranmere »

andy, I could never see myself voting for the BNP, I disagree with what they stand for, however I have never been poor and never been totally neglected. I remember seeing a documentary of Channel 4 a couple of years ago where a journalist spent some time with the BNP. He and the cameras followed them as they were canvassing on an estate on the edge of Oldham or Burnley (I can't remember which). Time and again people kept saying "you are the only politicans who have ever come near this place, all the others just go to the Asian areas and ask them what they want". If the BNP show up, and they are the first people to door-knock or leaflet that estate for 10 years, and they tell the locals they want to turn the estate into the proud area it once was, is it any wonder people vote for them?

This is ALL the fault of the main three parties and their PC agenda. Whether it's St Patrick's Day, Eid, and Diwala being huge events in London - and St George's Day only a minor affiair; whether it's the fact more and more mosque's are built all the time in Britain - including a proposal to build the biggest mosque in Europe here in London - yet no new churches or cathedrals have been built in donkey's years; nativity plays becoming rarer in schools due to 'cultural sensitivies' , yet minority events are accomodated at every turn - people feel their way of life is disappearing and that the main political parties are helping it happen. I am honestly not surprised some people vote for the BNP.
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