Is this democracy?

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andy at handiwork
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Re: Is this democracy?

Post by andy at handiwork »

Possibly not but highly satisfying.
dynatech
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Re: Is this democracy?

Post by dynatech »

Democracy is dead anyway, reliant as it is on the ignorant, brainwashed and misinformed dependant on their information from the corrupt tabloids.
Ever watched barristers at play in a court, trying to convince that black is white? This is what politicians of all persuasions are doing day in day out on 'our behalf'.

Allegiance to any political party or doctrine is the ultimate in head-in-the-sand intellectual dishonesty.

And as for these protests against a democratically elected MEP, the cries of "Nazi Scum" are as much an attack on those that voted for them as it was on Griffin himself, and another small step on the road to the civil disorder the ruling elite crave so much.

They're locking them up today, they're throwing away the key...I wonder who it be tomorrow, you or me?
max_tranmere
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Re: Is this democracy?

Post by max_tranmere »

The protest leader says "we decided to make sure our voices were heard". How does thowing eggs at someone ensure your voice is heard? I don't know why people bother voting at all - I mean the BNP got nearly 1m votes nationwide last week and they may aswell have got none. I said before on here that the BNP guy on the London Assembly got 30,000 more votes than was Boris Johnson's majority over Ken Livingstone. The BNP guy got 130,000 - Johnson got 100,000 more than Livingstone. When Johnson can gain he regards 100,000 as significant and takes all the things that come with that - namely the Mayor's job and a large salary and pension. When it is someone he doesnt like he regards 130,000 votes as meaning nothing because he says the BNP guy should be ignored. Unbelievable.

Those middle class suburban mummy's boys and girls on College Green chucking eggs at the BNP leader, Griffin, are effectively chucking eggs at all the people who voted for him, and the other candidate, in the north of England last week. Who are they to do that? People can vote for whoever they like. I voted UKIP but I doubt it will make much differnce to anything. And I've said before on here that if the BNP are so taboo and shouldnt be allowed to speak or comment or anything, and people will be sacked from public sector postions if they vote for them, then why are the BNP not banned ALTOGETHER and closed down as a party? If they can officially exist, pay tax, earn monthly salaries, and so on, then they are an official party and if they get votes, get seats, want to comment, then they should be able to. The establishment shouldn't go the half measure of allowing them to officially be - and yet sort of not allowing them to be - at the same time.
jbomz3
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Re: Is this democracy?

Post by jbomz3 »

It never ceases to amaze me , people call the fascists of the bnp , then carry on like that against them , pot and kettle spring to mind .
The bnp hold a rally each summer near me on private farmland in derbyshire , the last 1 or 2 have been called off after trouble by ??? you've guessed it , anti-fascist protesters rioting , smashing shop windows and bricking the police , and they try and give the bnp a bad name . JJ .
number 6
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Re: Is this democracy?

Post by number 6 »

Why shouldnt people protest against fascist nazis.?
dynatech
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Re: Is this democracy?

Post by dynatech »

If this kind of thing carries it WILL descend into class war. Whether you like it or not support is growing rapidly for the BNP amongst the caucasian working class and having a load of egg-throwing sneering 'protesters' chanting slogans, brain-washed Nathan Barleys pushing anti-BNP leaflets ('er, vote anything but the BNP fascists, right, yeah?') into the hands of voters in town centres & other politico's making risible statements about their nouveau rivals will simply reinforce BNP voters opinions of the whole thing and galvanise their support.

They're locking them up today, they're throwing away the key...I wonder who it be tomorrow, you or me?
max_tranmere
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Re: Is this democracy?

Post by max_tranmere »

I've just listened to the stupid woman who organised this violent attack on Griffin. She apparently believes so much in democracy that she shuts down free speech and resorts to violence in the name of fairness. I don't like them either but if they have democratically earned their two seats then they should be able to hold a press conference and be heard. This idiot says in her blurb that she is from Barking and Dagenham in east London. That area went from having no BNP councillors to having 12 in just one election! They are on the verge of getting their first Westminster seat there next year as their support base in that area is so big. As a result of this attack on Griffin today, the BNP will probably get more votes! His attempt at a press conference will get 5 times as much coverage as a result of these twats showing up than it otherwise would have got and 9 in every 10 people who sees it will be annoyed at what these people did - even if those watching are not supporters of the BNP! Well done to that woman. You have got the BNP more coverage than they would otherwise have got, you will have got them more voters, and you will have even further solidified their voter base in the very area you live in!
Peter
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Re: Is this democracy?

Post by Peter »

jbomz3 wrote:

> It never ceases to amaze me , people call the fascists of the
> bnp , then carry on like that against them , pot and kettle
> spring to mind .


You mean the "Its OK for us to hate you, and be violent towards you, because we don't want you to hate or be violent towards others" double standard?
We have need of you again, great king.
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