In this guys case he should be dragged into public square and kicked to death by the citizens of Lockerbie for what he has done or by all the friends and family of those lives that were lost on that flight
Fuck his prostrate cancer. He got off lightly. His victims never had the luxury of even getting cancer.
I dont believe in the death sentence BUT...
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Re: I dont believe in the death sentence BUT...
Same with Ronnie Biggs, I don't understand why ill health should give you your freedom. I know they won't be living it up on the outside, but they've got a sentence for a reason, let them die in jail.
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Kill 1 person during the biggest robbery of its kind and get 30 years. Kill 270 in a pan Am Flight and do a few years and get let off on compassionate grounds for terminal cancer.
Right Im gonna arm myself and wipe out a village. See you all here in a few years when Im out on compassionate grounds
Right Im gonna arm myself and wipe out a village. See you all here in a few years when Im out on compassionate grounds
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Perhaps they're more interested in their 'deaths in custody' stats and performance indicators ?
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Problem is Mr Eyed-Jack. The fella isn't guilty. The Lockerbie bombing was the responsibility of Syria. The Americans found out very early in the investigation that the device used to blow up those poor people was identical to devices used to target American embassies around the globe. Devices that the Syrian government had bought from what was left over from the East German Stasi.
Problem was the first Gulf War had just started and the US needed bases next door to Iraq. So a deal was done and Lybia was blamed. Of course the US didn't care as they had been after Lybia for ages.
Problem was the first Gulf War had just started and the US needed bases next door to Iraq. So a deal was done and Lybia was blamed. Of course the US didn't care as they had been after Lybia for ages.
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Thanks brainsinmedick...I did think about this and wondered if he was just a guy they hung out to dry while the real villains are probably puffing on a shusha somewhere.
In short he was the patsy.
If he wasnt then Im damn sure the guy wouldnt have seen the light of day if he was really guilty.
Why would anyone show a terrorist who committed such a heinous crime compassion?!
In short he was the patsy.
If he wasnt then Im damn sure the guy wouldnt have seen the light of day if he was really guilty.
Why would anyone show a terrorist who committed such a heinous crime compassion?!
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There are certainly enough reasons to doubt the man's guilt, and in fact his appeal is coming up soon. It is unlikely he will be alive to hear the result.
I met the two Libyans in Tripoli back in the early 90s, during the UN sanctions period, whilst working on a tv doc about the bombing. I am not basing any judgement as to his guilt on an evening spent with the men and their families listening to their pleas of innocence, but rather the mountain of counter evidence that would indeed seem to point to the Syria acting on behalf of Iran. The latter wanted revenge for the shooting down of an Airbus by the USS Vincennes, promising to destroy 10 American planes. I heard it mentioned that the US agreed to a single plane. That might be a little far fetched even for our paranoid times.
Iran sub-contracted the job to the Syrian secret service, who in turn availed themselves of the services of the Lebanon based Palastinians. There is strong evidence that the US Drug Enforcement Agency were running sting operations between the Bekkaa Valley in Lebanon and Chicago, allowing known heroin shipments on to US bound planes with the intent of catching the US end of the supply chain. It is alleged that security personnel along the route were instructed to not look too closely at the luggage on these drug-run flights. It was this operation that was infiltrated by the Palastinians, and the patsy who thought he was taking drugs on board carried the bomb instead. His uncle told us he was sure his nephew did not have a death-wish.
The CIA was against the DEA operation, and several agents were on the Pan Am flight intending to report to Langley about what they thought was a very risky and illegal operation by the DEA. Whilst blame initially pointed to the Syrians, it became expedient to let them off the hook in return for their support of Gulf War 1. As it was unlikely that anyone who mattered would mind, Libya was put in the frame. After all, the Libyan secret service had most probably just been involved in the bombing of a passanger plane over Chad with the loss of all on board.
I met the two Libyans in Tripoli back in the early 90s, during the UN sanctions period, whilst working on a tv doc about the bombing. I am not basing any judgement as to his guilt on an evening spent with the men and their families listening to their pleas of innocence, but rather the mountain of counter evidence that would indeed seem to point to the Syria acting on behalf of Iran. The latter wanted revenge for the shooting down of an Airbus by the USS Vincennes, promising to destroy 10 American planes. I heard it mentioned that the US agreed to a single plane. That might be a little far fetched even for our paranoid times.
Iran sub-contracted the job to the Syrian secret service, who in turn availed themselves of the services of the Lebanon based Palastinians. There is strong evidence that the US Drug Enforcement Agency were running sting operations between the Bekkaa Valley in Lebanon and Chicago, allowing known heroin shipments on to US bound planes with the intent of catching the US end of the supply chain. It is alleged that security personnel along the route were instructed to not look too closely at the luggage on these drug-run flights. It was this operation that was infiltrated by the Palastinians, and the patsy who thought he was taking drugs on board carried the bomb instead. His uncle told us he was sure his nephew did not have a death-wish.
The CIA was against the DEA operation, and several agents were on the Pan Am flight intending to report to Langley about what they thought was a very risky and illegal operation by the DEA. Whilst blame initially pointed to the Syrians, it became expedient to let them off the hook in return for their support of Gulf War 1. As it was unlikely that anyone who mattered would mind, Libya was put in the frame. After all, the Libyan secret service had most probably just been involved in the bombing of a passanger plane over Chad with the loss of all on board.
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Re: I dont believe in the death sentence BUT...
one eyed jack wrote:
> Thanks brainsinmedick...I did think about this and wondered if
> he was just a guy they hung out to dry while the real villains
> are probably puffing on a shusha somewhere.
>
> In short he was the patsy.
>
> If he wasnt then Im damn sure the guy wouldnt have seen the
> light of day if he was really guilty.
>
> Why would anyone show a terrorist who committed such a heinous
> crime compassion?!
>
planeterotica wrote:
Hi Terry, but these were not your thoughts when you started this thread ie: drag him into a public square and kick him to death, now either this was a rash statement on your behalf or you are easily persuaded by one poster who has a theory of this persons innocent but no evidence, stick with porn Terry because if you ever change carreer and become a Judge at the Old Bailey god help us !wink!
> Thanks brainsinmedick...I did think about this and wondered if
> he was just a guy they hung out to dry while the real villains
> are probably puffing on a shusha somewhere.
>
> In short he was the patsy.
>
> If he wasnt then Im damn sure the guy wouldnt have seen the
> light of day if he was really guilty.
>
> Why would anyone show a terrorist who committed such a heinous
> crime compassion?!
>
planeterotica wrote:
Hi Terry, but these were not your thoughts when you started this thread ie: drag him into a public square and kick him to death, now either this was a rash statement on your behalf or you are easily persuaded by one poster who has a theory of this persons innocent but no evidence, stick with porn Terry because if you ever change carreer and become a Judge at the Old Bailey god help us !wink!
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Agreed absolute shite ... how the goverment can come to this decision (biggest slaughter in the history of the UK) is absolute dire and stinks of some sort of deal being cut.
The big question though remains did this Guy actually do this?? I for one don't feel that the full story was ever told and that this deal is just further proof of that - but to the people on that flight and those that lost their lifes on that day I would say that the truth somehow needs to reach the surface for their loved ones to let them rest in peace.
The big question though remains did this Guy actually do this?? I for one don't feel that the full story was ever told and that this deal is just further proof of that - but to the people on that flight and those that lost their lifes on that day I would say that the truth somehow needs to reach the surface for their loved ones to let them rest in peace.
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You agree that he should be kicked to death but a paragraph later give the impression there's more to the story?
Now, I don't think he should be kicked to death regardless of his guilt but say if I did.....well, if I thought that 'the full story was never told' I'd at least like another investigation before this guy was 'kicked to death'.
Now, I don't think he should be kicked to death regardless of his guilt but say if I did.....well, if I thought that 'the full story was never told' I'd at least like another investigation before this guy was 'kicked to death'.
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