the EDL v the UAF...

[David Johnson]

"So holding up a placard calling for people to be beheaded is not provocative ? "

It is provocative. Obviously.....

Or do you expect the public to just accept it ?

No. Obviously....

Hence....

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/b ... 288903.ece

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[Sam Slater]

I don't know why you're asking me that question when I've made it quite clear that:

1. There will be bad eggs on both sides (ie the EDL and UAF or politicised Muslims).

2. No one on here is defending Muslim protesters that call for the murder of people.

Are you just angry that I'm not defending the EDL and calling for Muslims to be 'sent home'?

[David Johnson]

Max

I suspect I am not the only forumite who notes that when I totally trash your post, in particular your comment

"When it is muslims doing it no one cares or says anything and this winds people up."

by providing links to stories which prove otherwise, you make absolutely no apology, no retraction, no admittance of ignorance.

You just carry on spreading your poison borne out of stupidity.

As to this post, the UAF can call themselves what they want, can't they?

As to your moronic comment earlier
" The Unite Against Fascism group are refered to by the TV news as 'anti fascist protestors'
The media are just repeating their title. This might come as breathtakingly fantastic Max, but a group called United against Fascism are anti-fascist.

Do you get that?

And as for your other stupid comment
"If I thought they were right-wing extremists I would have no time for them but I don't view them as that. "

Look at the links I and others have provided to pictures and video of EDL demonstrations and only a mental defective would argue that these lads are not right-wing extremists.


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[Bob Singleton]

David Johnson wrote:

> Max
>
> I suspect I am not the only forumite who notes that when I
> totally trash your post, in particular your comment
>
> "When it is muslims doing it no one cares or says anything and
> this winds people up."
>
> by providing links to stories which prove otherwise, you make
> absolutely no apology, no retraction, no admittance of
> ignorance.
>
> You just carry on spreading your poison borne out of stupidity.
>
> As to this post, the UAF can call themselves what they want,
> can't they?
>
> As to your moronic comment earlier
> " The Unite Against Fascism group are refered to by the TV news
> as 'anti fascist protestors'
> The media are just repeating their title. This might come as
> breathtakingly fantastic Max, but a group called United against
> Fascism are anti-fascist.
>
> Do you get that?
>
> And as for your other stupid comment
> "If I thought they were right-wing extremists I would have no
> time for them but I don't view them as that. "
>
> Look at the links I and others have provided to pictures and
> video of EDL demonstrations and only a mental defective would
> argue that these lads are not right-wing extremists.
>
>
> D


David, it is clear to anyone with a working brain cell that Max is not only ignorant, he, like many of his kind, is also racist through ignorance, so doesn't believe himself to be racist.

No amount of cajoling, no amount of links to disprove what he says, no amount of arguing and offering him FACTS as opposed to ill-formed opinions (and sadly Max is the sort of person who confuses his own opinions for facts!) will ever make him change his mind, admit he is wrong, or even (please God, if there is a God... which there isn't!) shut up!!!!!

[max_tranmere]

David, you are getting almost as rude as that Bob Singleton guy, which I think is a shame. People may disagree with other people, think they are talking nonsense, but this can be pointed out less rudely than he always does and you are starting to do.

On this question of whether the media should call a body who call themselves Unite Against Fascism 'anti fascist protestors', this is a subjective term and the media are doing the organisation's bidding for them by saying that 'anti fasicist protestors protested against such and such organisation'. They are, in a round about way, calling the other organisation 'fascists' and whether they are or not is not for the TV news programmes to decide. I have just repeated what I said earlier and have little more to add to that point - we can either agree on this or disagree.

Lastly, I suggest you stop calling people 'stupid', 'mentally defective' and the writer of 'moronic comments', or you are likely to get banned from the Forum.

[David Johnson]

"Lastly, I suggest you stop calling people 'stupid', 'mentally defective' and the writer of 'moronic comments', or you are likely to get banned from the Forum."

You are of course quite right and I apologise. I do hope the umpteen other misguided posters who share similar views about you Max, will follow suit.

Your argument below that to call a group of people who belong to United Against Fascism, "ant-fascist protestors" is obviously totally subjective. Its a bit like calling members of the Girl Scouts Movement, girl scouts - wrong and misleading. In fact it is a little bit inflammatory.

"On this question of whether the media should call a body who call themselves Unite Against Fascism 'anti fascist protestors', this is a subjective term and the media are doing the organisation's bidding for them by saying that 'anti fasicist protestors protested against such and such organisation'

"If I thought they were right-wing extremists I would have no time for them but I don't view them as that."

Good comment, Maximilian. These people are good, honest men and true who come to various British cities to use their right to freedom of speech which men died for. They are obviously not fascists as that vile organisation, the BBC has implied.

Here is a pic of these thoughtful, EDL good men and true at their Swansea demo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atSFXW5X ... re=related

As for calling them fascists. Well having looked at this little clip, no-one could call them fascists surely?

PS Max. What is the arm held up straight out in a diagonal supposed to mean? Oh yes, that nice EDL skinhead is ordering a Dubonnet with ice and lemon from a nearby Asian bar steward.

Here's another little youtube gem taken at a "peaceful" EDL demo exercising freedom of speech in Manchester

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibjDjv497M4&NR=1

I find the Paki scum and Fuck off back home chants absolutely beguiling, eh? Next time you have a soiree Max you could invite them round to join you, perhaps?


I will leave you to inhabitant the wonderful world that is MAXLAND now.

After all, your humiliation is complete, isn't it?



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[David Johnson]

Hey Bob,
What would life be without challenges?
Cheers
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[Sam Slater]

Now come on, David. They weren't the real edl but anti-fascist hippies and Muslims in disguise! !whistle!

[David Johnson]

Oh bother,

You have caught me out. Its M15 goons with Labour MPs in disguise.

They really moaned apparently about having to have the skinhead look done.

Wimps!
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[David Johnson]

I forgot to mention the Labour MPs got paid ?3k just for the day!!
Soon as the rules on payment get sorted out the better.