Reasons to be cheerful..

[David Johnson]

Porn Historian,
I dont want to get involved in an endless thread but you dont appear to understand my point. You seem to think that convincing DNA evidence is always available. That is not the case.

"Never yet has someone been convicted of a child murder and DNA has been wrong."

You are missing the point. In many cases there may not be appropriate DNA evidence, particularly when as is often the case, the child is killed by a family member. This means that other evidence has to be used and we are back into the potential miscarriage of fit-up, forced confession, incorrect witness information etc etc. etc.

The reasons for the lack of convincing DNA evidence can include:
1. It was planned and the killer was very careful to avoid leaving DNA evidence.
2. The killer was a family member so their DNA was alll over the place anyway.
3. Even with a murder weapon found - imagine, child killed with a gardening spade. Father's DNA over the gardening spade handle. Father does the gardening. Does the DNA on the murder weapon prove the father did the murder? I don't think so.

In short then, despite the clear usefulness of DNA testing, there will still be convictions made without DNA testing being used as incontrovertible evidence. And in the event that capital punishment was carried out, there is obviously no comeback.

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[Dick Moby]

There are very few things in life that are 100% perfect and I suppose in many murder trials a conviction is brought on less than 100% agreement by the jury.I just can't see why there is so much concern about the guilty persons' rights and so little thought for the victims and their families.

[David Johnson]

"There are very few things in life that are 100% perfect and I suppose in many murder trials a conviction is brought on less than 100% agreement by the jury.I just can't see why there is so much concern about the guilty persons' rights and so little thought for the victims and their families."

Please remember the above, if you find yourself dangling on the end of a rope when wrongly convicted of a murder. Maybe your view will change?

This is my last post on this thread

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[Dick Moby]

Quite right David. Through a huff and leave because not everybody agrees with you.

[David Johnson]

I bow to your greater debating skill.

[Dick Moby]

I bow to your last post (or is it ?)

[Sam Slater]

All dna proves is that you were/were not at the scene of a crime. Maybe watching too much CSI has warped your judgement of what 'dna evidence' actually means.

[Sam Slater]

[quote]I just can't see why there is so much concern about the guilty persons' rights and so little thought for the victims and their families.[/quote]

But there is thought about the victims. That's why perpetrators are locked up. If the victims' families want more then that's something personal to different people. Some families would prefer the criminal hung, some prefer them rot in prison and some prefer to (and this is quite common) actually forge a relationship with said murderer and learn to forgive. Just because YOU want the state to murder doesn't mean many many victims' families do too.