Question re: filesharing

[Deuce Bigolo]

No danger ISPs having to pay their way so i guess the current staus quo of end users being singled out and banned by their ISPs or individuals getting their day with the entertainent industry in court will continue unabated


I think the reason a few are suggesting targetting ISPs to pay a small fee to copyright owners is punitive action against the end user is proving an expensive waste of time

Their desperate in other words


Evidenced by this recent failed court case against an ISP iinet





iiNet wins infringement case


04 February 2010 | 09:27:48 AM | Source: AAP/AFP
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The ruling on iiNet is being closely watched.

The Federal Court has handed down a landmark ruling in favour of iiNet, finding that the ISP is not responsible for copyright infringements of its users


A consortium of 34 movie studios, headed by Village Roadshow, had hoped to prove iiNet not only failed to take steps to stop illegal file-sharing by customers but breached copyright itself by storing and transmitting the data through its system.

Justice Dennis Cowdroy has found it is "impossible" to hold iiNet responsible for what its users have done in the landmark judgment that may secure the future for all internet service providers (ISPs).

"While I find that iiNet had knowledge of infringements occurring, and did not act to stop them, such findings do not necessitate a finding of authorisation," Justice Cowdroy told the court on Thursday.

"The evidence establishes that iiNet has done no more than to provide an internet service to its users." Justice Cowdroy said it was clear that illegal file downloading was happening on a large and international scale but he could not find against iiNet simply to make a point.

"The evidence establishes that copyright infringement of the applicant's films is occurring on a large scale ... however, such a fact does not necessitate or compel ... a finding of authorisation, merely because it is felt that `something must be done' to stop the infringements," the judge said.

'Copyright cops'

Australian Internet rights groups feared the piracy court case could force Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to become "copyright cops" and cut web access to customers who make illegal downloads.

But entertainment companies, including Village Roadshow, Paramount Pictures Australia and Twentieth Century Fox International, said iiNet did not do enough to stop its customers illegally sharing movies on the net.

ISP iiNet argued it has never encouraged or authorised the illegal sharing or downloading of files in breach of copyright laws and specifically warned its users against doing so.

ISPs were under mounting pressure to regulate the activities of those who subscribe to their Internet services.

BitTorrent websites were hard to shut down while individual file-sharers were too numerous to sue, added Dawes.

BitTorrent is a technology that allows online users to share parts of a large file such as a film or song over the Internet. The parts are then stitched together on the end user's computer to create a complete file.

[crofter]

Some excellent posts on this one ...

I think this is one of the reasons why the big Hollywood Studios are almost forcing the large TV manufacturers - like Sony, Panasonic, LG & Samsung to "push" 3d technology on an unsuspecting public. For those who keep up to date with the latest movers and shakers well 2010 is the year when 3d really takes off, with 3d TV's, blu ray players and PS3's and not to mention a full 3d service being launched by Sky.

Now as far as I am aware 3d material cannot be pirated (yet) so if and when 3d does become the norm it will certainly have a massive effect on say things like 720p or 1080p Blu Ray Rips & TV series for instance as whilst they will be HD - they will "only" be in 2d.

But personally I don't see 3d taking off ...!wink!

[Twingo]

[quote]Now as far as I am aware 3d material cannot be pirated (yet) so if and when 3d does become the norm it will certainly have a massive effect on say things like 720p or 1080p Blu Ray Rips & TV series for instance as whilst they will be HD - they will "only" be in 2d.[/quote]

It can be pirated, there just isnt a H264/MVC encoder/decoder available to re-view/re-encode such streams (at least i dont think so). Once one becomes available then it will be no different to 2D streams, with the exception of maybe a few hiccups at the start whilst they get over the initial bugs.

With the advent of more material coming in 3D for big events such as the world cup, then it will only be a matter of time. Especially as its just a subset of H264/AVC and wont require "much" extra work.

[one eyed jack]

Can I pull the "boogey man" card here?

Child porn...

We know it exists though in all my porno years I have never stumbled across it by accident

We know filesharing sites will pull anything that is liable to get them in hot water.

So why dont they apply the same respect to copyright material?

Sounds like its perfectly acceptable to steal and make money from stolen content and hide behind the fact they dont actually store or transmit anything.

Maybe the whole use of the internet and free stuff through torrenting is the whole game plan to get the whole world online.

Is it fair to say right now that the internet may well be a bigger medium than even television?

[Deuce Bigolo]

You only need look at forums whose attitude to copyrighted material is we remove when the owners ask us to

I know for a fact this attitude even relates to material they already have on their banned lists in their forum rules

They can do this because the laws quite clearly havent caught up to the cyberage

[Sam Slater]

An interesting take on CD sales and why some think revenue is down in the music biz. In short, it's digital downloading taking over CD purchases plus the ability to just buy certain songs in an album rather than paying for all the 'filler'.

As it shows, Germans still buy CDs and in Germany the music industry hasn't lost the revenue it has in the US (yet Germans are just as able to download pirated material).

[Sam Slater]

Hmmm...