im sttruggling to come to terms with this..

[number 6]

Here we have a lib dem party,supposedly of the left,who got crushed at the election,actively propping up and nodding in support at a right wing govt that will rip britain apart

[Bob Singleton]

Mind you, if Dr Ian Paisley and Martin McGuinness can work side by side in Belfast, I suppose anything's possible!

[one eyed jack]

Cant we all just get along??? !laugh!

[Sam Slater]

You're struggling because you're only seeing it from one point of view. It could also be seen as a left-wing party influencing right-wing policies.

I'm of the opinion that a left-wing party having a direct input within a mostly right-wing coalition is better for us all than a right-wing party left alone to decide how to govern us.

[number 6]

Yes Sam,but look at the cabinet posts,the ones that affect the pockets of people,the hard up etc,pensioners,are taken by tories. Chancellor osbourne,health secretery landsley,and most worrying of them all is work and pensions secretery,a certain ian duncan smith,a man who hates the welfare state and benefits and wants rid of it.

[David Johnson]

The Lib Dems have been given the scraps in terms of cabinet positions. But you would expect this given that it was 300+ seats for the Tories and 50+ for the Lib Dems.

Deputy Leader - the Prescott non-job. Apparently Nick will be given the job of implementing the electoral reforms which the Tories aren't keen on at all. And then have to contend with the Conservatives campaigning against the Lib Dems in the referendum over AV.

Energy Secretary Chris Huhne
This is an interesting role. A Liberal Democrat opposed to nuclear power tasked to implement the building of a new range of nuclear power stations in Britain. Liberal Democrats are allowed to abstain against Chris Huhne's plans!!

Scottish Secretary Danny Alexander
This is the Tory graveyard role. Tories have only 1 MP in Scotland and are clearly unpopular to say the least. In short, most Scottish voters would rather vote for a bag of shite than a Tory. Getting Danny Alexander as Scottish Secretary is a Tory masterstroke in that getting a Lib Dem to implement deep cuts to the Treasury funding for Scotland should result in heavy electoral losses for the Lib Dems at the next election.

CHief Secretary to the Treasury David Laws
Apparently from what I have read in the national press, Laws is viewed, rightly or wrongly, as more Tory than a number of Tories. Good choice then to do Osborne's dirty work.

Business Secretary Vince Cable
Another Tory masterstroke. In the weeks and months before the general election the Lib Dems were suggesting that this post and ministry should be abolished because it had already been stripped of most of its powers.
Apparently Osborne has already quashed the idea that Cable will be in charge of bank reforms.

Up yours VInce!

D

"You have to admire, I suppose the sheer gall of someone who worked for Margaret Thatcher claiming to care about poverty" Nick Clegg on Cameron

[number 6]

You couldnt make it up,how bloody gullible are these lib dems?

[David Johnson]

Number 6,
It would appear that you are not the only one struggling to come to terms with this.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010 ... membership

Cheers
D

"There is a gulf in values between myself and David Cameron. They have no progressive reform strategy at all" Nick Clegg

[Sam Slater]

And if Lib Dems were given much more authority in power people would use this as evidence that the Lib Dems weren't really interested in talking to Labour due to a lust for power (or some similar criticism). Whatever the outcome was some people would find fault with it because they want it to fail so badly! Any success would leave them looking like the ones who were wrong, stupid or, dare I say, naive.

I guess some people are just trying to persuade themselves that their cynicism will turn out to be right because it's comforting. It's much easier to sit back and criticise than to be positive.

[Ned]

Clegg should be out of a job, after flopping so badly in the polls, yet here he is strutting about like a peacock. One thing you can be absolutely sure of though, not one Lib Dem MP has any principles at all. None of them voted against this, despite spending their political careers railing against everything the Tories stand for. Vince Cable in particular must be feeling like the biggest joke in politics today, although he obviously has no shame. He started off serious politics in the Labour party, deserted them to join the SDP, got into Parliament in 97 as a Lib Dem and has ended up as a lap dog of the Tory right.

A complete joke of a "politician"

The only consolation is that these fools who think they're relevant will very soon learn they're not. As soon as the Tories don't need them, it's goodbye to the Lib Dems and a return to being firmly in the third place in politics.