Major 3D porn film in production.

[erotical]

There is a lot happening on the technology side of 3D and I expect we'll be inundated with products in 2011. The Nintendo 3DS, glasses free, is likely to be BIG. Lots of announcements of 3D featuring cameras and camcorders aimed at prosumer market coming up soon from Sony and the usual suspects.

3D does seem to divide the interweb commentators a lot, not sure how much of that is middle aged conservatism and how much about the fact not all eyes are equal. Personally speaking, suspect its the horseless carriage effect but we shall see soon enough.

I predict most of us will be experimenting with 3D next year and 2012 will not only be notable for the Olympics.

[frankthring]

It seems you guys are divided on this issue with the reactionaries as usual in the forefront !
I am a bit surprised that Jim Slip should be so anti since he almost sleeps
with his computer !
The truth, as always, is one man`s porn is another man`s idea of poison !
But here are a few facts:
a) The big boys in our industry are watching 3D very closely. Marc
Dorcel in France has been shooting 3D all summer, ready, I
suspect for a Venus Fair launch.
b) The Italians led by Salieri are not far behind.
c) I know of at least 1 major company who will be buying the 3D
Panasonic here in Hungary and using it from Sept.
d) And as soon as that camera - which seems virtually unobtainable
despite what Pansonic say - hits the LA shops in a few weeks I
have no doubt the major US porn guys will start experimenting.

Now to technology:
a) Panasonic are spending 16 million euros advertising 3D this
year and say they are upping this to 40 million + in 2011.
b) Sony with a different system without the need of glasses are
moving not far behind. Once they launch a camera - probably
a year from now - all hell breaks loose !
c) Yes, its gonna be just like the VHS-Betacam battle and there
will eventually be a winner.

So don`t scoff at 3D Jimbo, its going to cum whether we want it or not !
I would also add that the World TV Industry (makers of TVs in all
countries) are desperate to see 3D succeed as sales have been dropping
for years and they need a mega-boost !
A 3D Tv also plays Blu-Ray so why not have both on your telly. Makes
sense to me !
And the fans - well its a ll a matter of what you fancy, though I think
quite a lot of guys will be tempted to see some boobs dancing in their
face or the thrust of a cock or lots of other stuff that 3D visuals make
possible. Crap porn will always be crap...but 3D will add an extra
dimension to those that want to view it.

[jimslip]

Mr Thring, you (of all people) should know better than to accuse me of "Scoffing" at new technology, as you well know, I am the first to embrace anything new.

Maybe, I should be more abrupt in expressing previous point, ie, if it's shit in 2D, it ain't gonna be any less shit in 3D, regardless of whether you're some foreign "Big-shot" or not!

I'm afraid "Johnny Stud" arriving (For the 100th time) on his pizza moped at a models house announcing, "You no need pay, eeff you have DP mit myself and my friend Igor who ist on zee other moped,sexylaedy!" will be crap in 2D, 3D, Hologram and every other new technology that gets invented!

[one eyed jack]

Frank may well be right actually.

I remember how various luminaries in this business scoffed at dvd extras, behind the scenes and websites and passing them off as a fad.

Sure as the world turns 24/7 there will come change and its inevitable this is the next step but as you say, if its shit in 2d it aint gonna be better in 3d but get in there quick and you might make a buck before everybodys mother and son does the same

[Bob Singleton]

one eyed jack wrote:

[SNIP]

>
> Sure as the world turns 24/7 there will come change and its
> inevitable this is the next step but as you say, if its shit in
> 2d it aint gonna be better in 3d but get in there quick and you
> might make a buck before everybodys mother and son does the
> same
>


No doubt what Mr Cameron thought when he shot Avatar, then! !wink!

Seriously though, do we, the viewing public, need 3D??? And I really mean NEED??? I know those trying to sell us 3D TVs etc will try and make us think we NEED them in order to boost their profits, but forget your roles as producers and just imagine you are blokes doing normal 9-5 jobs in an office or shop... do you really, actually NEED to see films (any films... not necessarily porn) in 3D?

From the point of enhancing the viewing experience, colour TV was better than b&w TV (though I still stand by my earlier statement that in still photography b&w often surpasses colour... just look at Ansell Adam's work for example, or Doisneau, Capra and many of the early Magnum guys and tell me those shots would be just as dramatic in colour), wide screen TV is preferable to 4:3 and HiDef is more rewarding than standard transmitions... but having seen 3D films I truly believe these to be a step (if not several steps) back from watching in HiDef. Indeed I would go so far to say, that in my own personal opinion, I would rather watch a modern programme shot in HD on a 1950s 12" Bush B&W TV than watch its equivalent in 3D on a 3D telly EVEN IF I don't need to wear those stupid glasses!

3D technology must be stamped on and eradicated NOW before millions, if not billions of pounds are wasted by manufacturers and the public on something which is nothing more than a con.

[videokim]

I was interested in the new sony 3D TV but the problem i had was that it made me feel sick after a few mins (like a fairground ride) the Sony glasses are the best around for 3D but its something we would give a miss.
As for 3D catching on...its so expensive to shoot, produce and watch & the British porn watchers don't like expensive.
we even have trouble with AVCHD disc's we do because even though other Blu Ray players say they play them they tell porkies, we tell people if they don't have a playstation 3 or Sony Blu-ray player opt for a normal DVD.

[andy ide]

I'm certainly not a fan of this new generation of 3D, although my only experience of it has been watching Avatar (which I walked out of after an hour). I'm very much of the view that there is no general need for it. Two-dimensional film already presents a three-dimensional view through its manipulation of depth of focus, texture, colour etc. But odd as it sounds, I am still open to watching a movie in 3D if it succeeds in making me forget that I'm watching 3D, in a way that an excellent music score enhances the experience in a way that I'm not conscious of at the time. I've heard that Pixar may have managed this with Toy Story 3.

It will be very interesting to see how this all settles down. I certainly think that things could cool down at the movies after the punters start to think about the trade-off between three very artificial-looking and dim dimensions which they've got to wear some really stupid glasses to watch (and pay more for) and two dimensions that are 30% brighter and more colourful and - hey! - are actually just like three dimensions anyway. But will that kill it off? Will digital animation (where an inherent artificiality is already present), some tidy little horror movies and very well done extravaganzas maintain it? I can't see it being popular with standard dramas and comedies.

Actually, the more I think about it the more unsure I am about 3D porn having legs, because it plays to the same set of decreasing returns as 3D does at the flicks. It comes down to the fact that most of it will be total shit, so maybe the rejection will happen faster. Which isn't to say that a skilled and creative porn producer, moving his 3D camera fluidly up and down and around the action, couldn't create some very effective and horny stuff. And seeing as how the punter will have already laid out on the equipment, that producer could find himself enjoying a long run of success, far longer than others.

One thing's for sure -- get ready for every boy-girl scene kicking off with an interminable solo introduction.

[one eyed jack]

Toy Story 3 was absolutely awesome and the 3D was used to the effect you were immersed in themovie but then again I did see it at the imax which boasts a 12,000 watts system.

Wow. great experience, well written and paced movie and yes my heart was heavy to towards the end but I didnt cry....Honest !sad!

Bob you're right we dont need 3D. we can live our lives very happily wihtout it but its being boosted to beat the web piracy that is so prevalant nowadays.

How are people going to film that on a big screen with the shades on the camera too. You can bet by the time it comes to torrenting the result will look awful and thats the real reason it is being pushed.

Someof the films are shot 2D and pushed through the 3D process which is not as good ie Clash of the Titans which i enjoyed better than th eorignial for the fact the effects worked so seamlessly with the live action.

I want to see the old Sinbad movies remade and I hear they are planning on Jason and The Argonauts!

How about The Robe remade in 3D! I doubt there would be an audience for that kind of remake these days....Or even Spartacus!

[one eyed jack]

Oh the limitations of 3D?

Try turning your head to the side, left or right at an angle and watch the image go off kilter. At least with 2D you can watch upside down and sideways....Well not that you would but you never know.

[jimslip]

I think the fundamental problem when applying any new technology to the porn genre, is that what ever way you do it, ultimately its people shagging. Porn producers are a little like curry chefs who only make up 3 or 4 sauces and with the help of a few extra ingredients here and there, more or less make every one of the 30 or so sauces that exists on an Indian Restuarant menu.

3D Works when objects/people move and engage with the camera, so the most effective bit of a human body for engaging with a viewer in 3D is someones cock! So 3D for gay porn could make you a fortune!3D works best when the actors move for the viewer rather than the camera moving and the actors remain still. So a gay porn fan could enjoy a massive dong filling up his living room! LOL

Us straights however, are not so lucky, as a 3D rendition of a bunch of people shoved on a bed shagging, would, I think be disappointing after the initial thrill, for todays modern consumer, who is already bored and jaded.

So going back to my Pizza delivery boy scenario in 3D as outlined in my previous post, for 3D, I would create a story where 2 of them were furiously riding their mopeds to a models house, (laden with Deep Pan Stuffed Crusts) for a DP. So, you get a few 3D shots of this, but sure, it's not very impressive UNLESS you get one of the pizza delivery boys to crash over a cliff and at the bottom, looking up, have a 3D camera rolling. So you get a shot of the moped going over the cliff and then cut to the guy crashing to earth in slo motion and then exploding just above the camera in a ball of flames (CGI here)..... now that would be getting somewhere!

Cut back to the other Pizza guy at the top of the cliff, who'd just say, "Oh shucks Igor is dead, I can no longer offer DP for a Deep Crust, I must find new friend immediately!" he flags down a pool cleaner on his way to a job, "Hello, pool cleaner, would you like to join me and visit a pretty laedy who will swap a deep crust pizza for a DP?" "Pool attendent replies, "Yes, I would, let us go!" !happy!

So I think 3D could work, but it's back to the drawing bored for would be porn producers because they'll have to visually re-think all their new films, no easy matter.