Yes Frank, I would be very happy to see at least 70% of UK kids look for work elswhere in Europe, in fact it should be compulsory, after all they are not entitled to a job here just because they were born in the UK, that's just rubbish, In fact they should look for unicersity places in Europe, they have some fine one's, some where medical training only takes 2yrs.
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David Johnson
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Jimbo
More Jackanory from Jimbo. Fairy stories for the mentally under fives.
"However, let's not forget that when it all goes tits up, those same plucky EU members can also languish on our wonderful benefits system."
Some EU countries have worse benefits systems; many have a better one. Maybe you need to find an unemployed person having to get by on ?65 a week jobseekers allowance and have a chat to them about the wonderful times and the champagne lifestyle they have, Jimbo.
"When their girlfriends get pregnant, enjoy all the benefits of the NHS"
Not this old tat again. Do a search on your posts on the NHS. I seem to recall Lizard, Frank and myself showed you that you were talking nonsense about the cruel EU countries taking advantage of the poor and sick Brits abroad. Remember the link I gave you about Spaniards moaning about the Brits coming over to Spain to get quick operations? Good lad!
" Oh yes and when the kids are born they'll be looked after and educated free of charge!"
Shock horror! There are many EU countries where education is free. Unbelievable.
"You also forget that many young EU members live in the most boring, appalling dumps "
Can I suggest a night out in Stevenage and Slough, Jimbo?
Nice post, James. Your usual standard.
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"However, let's not forget that when it all goes tits up, those same plucky EU members can also languish on our wonderful benefits system."
Some EU countries have worse benefits systems; many have a better one. Maybe you need to find an unemployed person having to get by on ?65 a week jobseekers allowance and have a chat to them about the wonderful times and the champagne lifestyle they have, Jimbo.
"When their girlfriends get pregnant, enjoy all the benefits of the NHS"
Not this old tat again. Do a search on your posts on the NHS. I seem to recall Lizard, Frank and myself showed you that you were talking nonsense about the cruel EU countries taking advantage of the poor and sick Brits abroad. Remember the link I gave you about Spaniards moaning about the Brits coming over to Spain to get quick operations? Good lad!
" Oh yes and when the kids are born they'll be looked after and educated free of charge!"
Shock horror! There are many EU countries where education is free. Unbelievable.
"You also forget that many young EU members live in the most boring, appalling dumps "
Can I suggest a night out in Stevenage and Slough, Jimbo?
Nice post, James. Your usual standard.
Cheers
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Difference between us Comrade is that I actually travel all over Europe for a living. I live in 2 EU countries and have "Enjoyed" their lack of bennys and welfare. Whereas what do you do? Spout psuedo New Labour fantasy shite on this forum!Why not pack you bags and do a bit of travelling, try breaking a leg and see what happens!!
PS In the name of God don't forget your credit card, 'cos you'll be fucked without it! Don't lecture me on how wonderful our so called, " EU Reciprocal" health care is in the UK. A mate of mine spent 3 years imprisoned in a Greek hospital because he didn't have insurance and the cunts wouldn't let him go until his bill was paid. This is real stuff, not bollocks I've read from a book or from some New Labour pamphlet!
PS In the name of God don't forget your credit card, 'cos you'll be fucked without it! Don't lecture me on how wonderful our so called, " EU Reciprocal" health care is in the UK. A mate of mine spent 3 years imprisoned in a Greek hospital because he didn't have insurance and the cunts wouldn't let him go until his bill was paid. This is real stuff, not bollocks I've read from a book or from some New Labour pamphlet!
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David Johnson
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Jimbo
Yet more tedious nonsense.
"Difference between us Comrade is that I actually travel all over Europe for a living. I live in 2 EU countries and have "Enjoyed" their lack of bennys and welfare. Whereas what do you do? Spout psuedo New Labour fantasy shite on this forum!Why not pack you bags and do a bit of travelling,"
Ooo get you, global traveller! 2 EU countries? A right little BGAFD Alan Whicker, you are. And what pray do you know about my travel/work experience in the EU or otherwise? Have special crystal ball powers do we, Jimbo?
If you want to remind yourself of the last time you talked nonsense about the NHS and travel in Europe, here's the link, since you obviously have no recall of it. Though the regularity of your humiliation on this forum, I would guess most people in the same situation would develop selective amnesia.
http://bgafd.co.uk/forum/read.php?f=3&i=245398&t=245398
!wink!
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"Difference between us Comrade is that I actually travel all over Europe for a living. I live in 2 EU countries and have "Enjoyed" their lack of bennys and welfare. Whereas what do you do? Spout psuedo New Labour fantasy shite on this forum!Why not pack you bags and do a bit of travelling,"
Ooo get you, global traveller! 2 EU countries? A right little BGAFD Alan Whicker, you are. And what pray do you know about my travel/work experience in the EU or otherwise? Have special crystal ball powers do we, Jimbo?
If you want to remind yourself of the last time you talked nonsense about the NHS and travel in Europe, here's the link, since you obviously have no recall of it. Though the regularity of your humiliation on this forum, I would guess most people in the same situation would develop selective amnesia.
http://bgafd.co.uk/forum/read.php?f=3&i=245398&t=245398
!wink!
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Re: 45% Increase in Immigration
A question to those who are so concerned about "immigration"...
When has this country NOT been "over-run" by immigrants? Romans, Angles, Saxons, Vikings, Normans... the list goes on. Immigration is not a recent "problem" so I can only conclude that your fears are rooted in racism.
There's nothing stopping those looking for work to venture beyond these shores other than their own fecklessness... others have done it in the past (and before you start complaining about Poles taking jobs from British builders, many British builders went to Germany in the early 80s to find work there, where they under-cut the local work-force. It works both ways, you know!)
When has this country NOT been "over-run" by immigrants? Romans, Angles, Saxons, Vikings, Normans... the list goes on. Immigration is not a recent "problem" so I can only conclude that your fears are rooted in racism.
There's nothing stopping those looking for work to venture beyond these shores other than their own fecklessness... others have done it in the past (and before you start complaining about Poles taking jobs from British builders, many British builders went to Germany in the early 80s to find work there, where they under-cut the local work-force. It works both ways, you know!)
"But how to make Liverpool economically prosperous? If only there was some way for Liverpudlians to profit from going on and on about the past in a whiny voice."
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I always considered the vikings, romans etc as invading armies?
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People who arrived here years ago melded into the society and raised their kids to be British, they showed gratitude to the country that had taken them in, and they showed loyalty.
For the last generation or so, and particularly since the Left started infesting everything from when Blair and co took over 14 years ago, people now remain very foreign, and bring their kids up to be foreign and to have no loyalty to this country.
Multi-ethnic I am in favour of, muliti-allegiance I am not. People on the Left talk about how the fact you don't hear English spoken much in London and that most of your neighbours have English as a second language as being a positive because it is part of "the rich mulit-cultural society". Be as British as you demand to be regarded, or leave - that's what I say.
For the last generation or so, and particularly since the Left started infesting everything from when Blair and co took over 14 years ago, people now remain very foreign, and bring their kids up to be foreign and to have no loyalty to this country.
Multi-ethnic I am in favour of, muliti-allegiance I am not. People on the Left talk about how the fact you don't hear English spoken much in London and that most of your neighbours have English as a second language as being a positive because it is part of "the rich mulit-cultural society". Be as British as you demand to be regarded, or leave - that's what I say.
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"For the last generation or so, and particularly since the Left started infesting everything from when Blair and co took over 14 years ago, people now remain very foreign, and bring their kids up to be foreign and to have no loyalty to this country. "
And I thought the argument being put up by Nikonman was that there was a 45% increase in immigration in the last 12 months. Doesn't that coincide with the Tory led coalition or have I got my dates all wrong?
Apparently 1 in 10 British citizens live overseas, about 6 million. I am sure that the overwhelming majority speak the local lingo fluently, are admirable additions to the community, integrate with their host country completely and are almost indistinguishable from the locals. Mind you there might be the occasional one or two, that only speak English (extra loud if Jonny Foreigner is a bit slow on the uptake), eat Marmite and watch East Enders in the local British Bulldog bar - pints of Guinness just like the Queen doesn't drink while boring the locals to the point of insanity with their moaning about their adopted country.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6210358.stm
And what do you think about the Danes banning marmite? Bloody shower! Where's my gunboat? Oh fuck, we haven't got any left!!!
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And I thought the argument being put up by Nikonman was that there was a 45% increase in immigration in the last 12 months. Doesn't that coincide with the Tory led coalition or have I got my dates all wrong?
Apparently 1 in 10 British citizens live overseas, about 6 million. I am sure that the overwhelming majority speak the local lingo fluently, are admirable additions to the community, integrate with their host country completely and are almost indistinguishable from the locals. Mind you there might be the occasional one or two, that only speak English (extra loud if Jonny Foreigner is a bit slow on the uptake), eat Marmite and watch East Enders in the local British Bulldog bar - pints of Guinness just like the Queen doesn't drink while boring the locals to the point of insanity with their moaning about their adopted country.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6210358.stm
And what do you think about the Danes banning marmite? Bloody shower! Where's my gunboat? Oh fuck, we haven't got any left!!!
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Hi David,
The increase in immigration under Labour was vast. I heard we had the highest immigration for over 1,000 years under Blair and Brown. You are right that Cameron has done little to sort this out, I remember hearing that the changes he was making would only stop something like 1 in 30 of those who wanted to come from coming - and that seems to be what's happened.
Brits who have permanently settled abroad should integrate in my view, learn the language, show as much loyalty and love for the place they've settled in and have writing in the local language above their shops and pubs.
A distinction can be made between foreigners temporarily living in a country who are not naturalised citizens (an who don't have a local passport) who could not get Benefits, have limited extent of residency, can't get a pension because they are foriegn (European people who live outside the EU for example) - and people who become naturalised citizens in the place where they arrive and who can and do get all those things, free-healthcare, free schooling for their kids, Legal Aid and so on.
Those who are ex-citizens of where they left and who are now naturalised citizens in the place they've settled, should show as much loyalty to the place as they demand from it. I work not far from the huge Lebanese community in Edgware Road in London. It is massive and expanding all the time. These people have a very nice life on the legacy of our war dead yet show little appreciation of it. You wouldn't see one person there wearing a Poppy during Rememberance Week and they would'nt even know what it was. I've walked through the area with my Poppy on and people stare at you with a "what on earth is that thing he is wearing?" type expression. I find that offensive.
People who are here for a year of two and are very much foreign in terms of their status (as I've described) I can accept them not getting into the British thing because they are just temporarily here and not naturalised. Bizarelly, idiots on the Left would call someone a racist for demanding people show as much loyalty to this country as they demand from it. I remember Norman Tebbit being called that when he spoke of the 'Cricket Test'.
The increase in immigration under Labour was vast. I heard we had the highest immigration for over 1,000 years under Blair and Brown. You are right that Cameron has done little to sort this out, I remember hearing that the changes he was making would only stop something like 1 in 30 of those who wanted to come from coming - and that seems to be what's happened.
Brits who have permanently settled abroad should integrate in my view, learn the language, show as much loyalty and love for the place they've settled in and have writing in the local language above their shops and pubs.
A distinction can be made between foreigners temporarily living in a country who are not naturalised citizens (an who don't have a local passport) who could not get Benefits, have limited extent of residency, can't get a pension because they are foriegn (European people who live outside the EU for example) - and people who become naturalised citizens in the place where they arrive and who can and do get all those things, free-healthcare, free schooling for their kids, Legal Aid and so on.
Those who are ex-citizens of where they left and who are now naturalised citizens in the place they've settled, should show as much loyalty to the place as they demand from it. I work not far from the huge Lebanese community in Edgware Road in London. It is massive and expanding all the time. These people have a very nice life on the legacy of our war dead yet show little appreciation of it. You wouldn't see one person there wearing a Poppy during Rememberance Week and they would'nt even know what it was. I've walked through the area with my Poppy on and people stare at you with a "what on earth is that thing he is wearing?" type expression. I find that offensive.
People who are here for a year of two and are very much foreign in terms of their status (as I've described) I can accept them not getting into the British thing because they are just temporarily here and not naturalised. Bizarelly, idiots on the Left would call someone a racist for demanding people show as much loyalty to this country as they demand from it. I remember Norman Tebbit being called that when he spoke of the 'Cricket Test'.
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May I say that my original post was in no way ment to be racist. We don't want that in this, or any other country for that matter.
Since my original post I have been reading more on this matter, and it seems that in 2009 many of the Poles and other East Europeans returned to their own counties only to have returned to the UK over the last 12 months hence the high figures.
In the article I read it did not say why there has been this large return, maybe someone on here will be able to enlighten me. ( I am sure David will know)
I wonder if those returning home found there was a lack of work for them.
If this is the case it would be pointless sending our young people to other EU counties looking for work, as stated in some of the other replies.
Many of the other EU counties seem to have far higher unemployment figures than the UK anyway.
Also many other counties will only want qualifed people anyway.
Since my original post I have been reading more on this matter, and it seems that in 2009 many of the Poles and other East Europeans returned to their own counties only to have returned to the UK over the last 12 months hence the high figures.
In the article I read it did not say why there has been this large return, maybe someone on here will be able to enlighten me. ( I am sure David will know)
I wonder if those returning home found there was a lack of work for them.
If this is the case it would be pointless sending our young people to other EU counties looking for work, as stated in some of the other replies.
Many of the other EU counties seem to have far higher unemployment figures than the UK anyway.
Also many other counties will only want qualifed people anyway.