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[David Johnson]

Jimbo

YOu said
"David's St Francis of Assisi's famous quote would be, "Where there is calm, I will bring chaos!."

OEJ asked some genuine, straightforward questions here which were on the topic of this thread.
http://bgafd.co.uk/forum/read.php?f=3&i=249251&t=249106

and got this as a reply from SAYITREAL
"if you and david want to suck each others cocks then please feel free its not the first time OEJ has brown nosed someone on these forums and i am sure it wont be the last.i would like to brown nose your mrs though she looked well fit on bluebird the other week nice baps too heheheheh"

Are you suggesting that this was OEJ's fault for provoking SAYITREAL? Because all I did was ask SAYITREAL some questions, the same as OEJ. If you had bothered to search on SAYITREAL as an author you would see he has been acting like a complete idiot all the time he has posted here.

Secondly Jimbo, you say"Try and learn to share and respect other peoples opinions even if you don't agree with them!"

Did you have a straight face when you posted that?

Or maybe you have never read a single post that you have made in reply to me on this forum for a year and a half!

Pot calling kettle black, methinks!

Cheers
D

[one eyed jack]

Best quit while you're ahead Jim !happy!

Its looking like your backing up SAYITREAL who ain't SAYIN'SHIT now !happy!

I got Davids back all the way when it comes to that fool!

[David Johnson]

"I don't think sayitreal started off in an insulting manner, I think he was provoked. "

Just like OEJ provoked Sayitreal by asking him some questions which were on topic, Jimbo?

Read OEJ's post here, Jimbo
http://bgafd.co.uk/forum/read.php?f=3&i=249251&t=249106

So you think OEJ was guilty of provoking him?

I don't think so. OEJ disagreed with him, but as we all know on this forum that is enough to result in a torrent of insults, eh?

Cheers
D

[one eyed jack]

He made two other provocative comments today alone. The one about Faye was his third for the day

The first was about Louise Parkers husband being a suitcase pimp.

Funny how he calls himself SAYITREAL but he cant say it real and another derisory comment about Sophie Obrien changing her name

There were others I chose to ignore but this one tonight just took it too far to be ignored and probably why he got deleted

If left he wouldve got worse I'm sure

The man is spineless hiding behind a pseudonym to stir up trouble. At least you will find my real name on my sig and email

[jimslip]

Yes, I agree, that he seems to consider himself a man that, "Calls a spade a spade", hence the name, "SAYITREAL" and in my opinion has too rapidly turned to unnacceptable gross personal insults and abuse, which is the norm on other forums out there, but not on this one.

I was trying to be a little diplomatic and forgiving to a newbie, who has found himself involved in a debate that has turned into a tsunami of hatred and bile. Also, knowing that David is a veteran of many spats, I was also respectfully asking of him to perhaps be a little less verbally patronising of all those that he encounters that do not automatically agree with him on all matters.

I know of many who have ceased to post on here because of David's inquisitorial and snooty, "I know it all" style of debate. Some just walk away and others, like SAYITREAL, who don't know David's patronising antics better, will get extremely angry. This in no way condones extreme personal abuse.

David presents a very worrying picture of those that would be involved in any future New Labour governments. In fact I believe he does his fellow New Labour followers a great disservice with his dictatorial, haranguing style.

He is certainly a great asset to the Tory/ Coalition party on this forum!

All I ask is for calm to break out once again on this normally civilised, democtratic, forum!

[David Johnson]

Hello Jimbo

Another post from you which is a list of insults, full of pseudo concern e.g.

"David presents a very worrying picture of those that would be involved in any future New Labour governments."

I hope you are not too "worried" Jimbo. Can I just say I doubt very much if I will be "involved in future New Labour governments" .

But if I do become Home Secretary, you will be the first to know, Jimbo. !wink!

"All I ask is for calm to break out once again on this normally civilised, democtratic, forum!"

Then, perhaps start taking your own advice rather than resorting to one long jibe which is what your message is. e.g. "who don't know David's patronising antics better, will get extremely angry." and "He is certainly a great asset to the Tory/ Coalition party on this forum!"

Ah yes, what was it you suggested, it was OEJ's fault for provoking SAYITREAL by asking him questions.

" know of many who have ceased to post on here because of David's inquisitorial and snooty, "I know it all" style of debate"

They must have been terrified. Were they Jimbo?

You just can't stop yourself can you, Jimbo? As I have said many times before James. Treat me with respect, you will get respect from me. Give me a string of sly jibes like this message and I will continue to run rings round you.

Cheers
D

[David Johnson]

For giving me the benefit of your thoughts on the "David Johnson problem".

If you like, I will give you an analysis of the "Jim Slip problem".

Just drop me a line when you want it.

Cheers
D

[David Johnson]

Are you going to address OEJ's point or simply ignore it because it is inconvenient?

"Dont turn this into a David Johnson thing Jim because it is what it is, you guys attacking an individual mob handed for having a different point of view".

As you know Jimbo, OEJ is absolutely right.

I will paraphrase what you said when you were trying to drum up support for a co-ordinated response ie. attack on my views.

I paraphrase ------ It seems that common sense has broken out on BGAFD with various members carrying out attacks on David Johnson. Blah Blah is leading the charge, let us not let him down!

Over to you, Jimbo. Are you going to deny stating that?

Let's see your reply.

Cheers
D

[one eyed jack]

"I was trying to be a little diplomatic and forgiving to a newbie, who has found himself involved in a debate that has turned into a tsunami of hatred and bile"

Jim, really man you got to stop politicking. SAYITREAL got involved with the thread and probably picked on DJ because it appears to be the done thing around here to gang up on the easiest target.

There s no excusing his insults whatsoever Jim. We're not defending a 10 year old child here. You are defending an adult who is old enough to know better. When amna starts dishing out insults about three different girls in the same day it does make you wonder about his intellectual maturity

"I know of many who have ceased to post on here because of David's inquisitorial and snooty, "I know it all" style of debate"

No offence Jim and in the tradition of SAYITREAL this sounds like you right now. Me and you are coolasI can rise above this but this does appear to be you too

I have spoken to mainly girls and a few producers who dont get on here and not one of them cited Mr Johnson. If anything it is just the general haggling and nasty comments said by many tha they cant be bothered.

These same people thought it was a fan forum but when it turns into a full on flame sesh then it ceases to be fun. Rather than complain, they just look in but don't contribute.

"David presents a very worrying picture of those that would be involved in any future New Labour governments. In fact I believe he does his fellow New Labour followers a great disservice with his dictatorial, haranguing style"

Personally never bothered get involved with these debates since it became all about Jim and DJ (get a room you two) is about as much as I've offered in the past

I'm not defending DJ per se here when I say this but you are abit obsessive with your campaign against Nu Labour that had me thinking that maybe us porno guys should just stick to the porn and argue about politics on a forum where it may have more impact than an Off Topic section of a porn forum

Jim, dont use DJ as an excuse for SAYITREALs rash outbursts. I think the evidence presents itself quite well here in this thread and I'm glad the mods didnt delete it and I think you're defending it is making you look obsessive about Mr Johnson if you are blind to the these facts because it looks like I should be blaming DJ for SAYITREAL making his comments out of turn