Jolly Foreigner , & Telegraph

[Porn Baron]

Is this why we have so many people in work? Because jobs are being subsidised by the tax payer? Firms can pay low wages as they know the tax payer will top up the wage with credits?

[Gentleman]

And also the fact working 16 hours or more in a week is considered to be full time employment and so you can't claim job seekers allowance and hey presto one less unemployed person on the jobless totals.

Maybe this explains that we appear to be the only nation in history to be loosing employers and yet more people in work.

Of course no one interested in the numbers of working poor and its year by year increase.

[David Johnson]

As you say, it is one of the mysteries that the UK which has had no growth overall in the nigh on three years of this government and yet has "created" 1 million new jobs according to the Tories during this period. What are these new employees doing in the shops and factories up and down the land then, if they are not increasing production or sales? Watching other people work? I don't think so.

A lot of the "new" jobs created are down to:

1. 200,000 jobs in the college sector being reclassified from being public sector jobs to private sector jobs.
2. People on work experience being regarded as being in employment.
3. Employers taking one full-time job and dividing into two or more part-time jobs. That way the employer avoids paying any National Insurance etc. That's why your local Spar, Tesco Express etc etc. has different people on the till almost every time you go there.

WHo picks up the tab to support the employers' profits? The taxpayer funding tax credits to prevent the working poor starving to death.

Time for a living wage to be introduced.

[Gentleman]

Can't argue with that.

[number 6]

Which party are more likely to introduce a living wage??? i will lay you 1/50 labour 100/1 the tories.

[Gentleman]

Maybe we could ask the NRA to form a party here in the UK as the only hope we have of changing anything here is taking up weapons.