Christina Redgrave

[Walter Burns]

We have received a submission on the IAFD claiming that Christina Redgrave from Lolita is in fact Aliona/Kristina.

It's been a long time since I have seen this film, but I should have recognized her at the time. I did not.

Does anyone here agree or disagree with the above submission?

Or.

Does anyone have screencaps for Lolita besides the ones on EGAFD now, which proof or disproof the submission? The headshots for the unknowns on EGAFD are clearly not Aliona.

[jj]

I haven't checked the flick recently, but my notes for 'Lolita' list Aliona. I'll cap when I get time.
I believe I'd assumed that Chr. Redgrave was her alias in this on the strength of Christina [or orthographic variants thereof] having been used for her in other titles.
She's so recognisable that I don't think I'd have made an error.

XNK2105 is the transsexual who Gessica eventually has sex with.

[Walter Burns]

Thanks.

I will wait before making any chances till I have seen the caps.

[alec]

We've also received a similar e-mail recently. I've assumed it's correct for now, but I'm prepared to correct it again.

I haven't seen the film. We were sent the caps, and Aliona is not among the caps we were sent. Maybe they were done from an incomplete copy. There is also the potential of a mix-up between films in a "series", with the same cast appearing in the credits of each one. We have Lolita 2 as an alternative title of the MMV version. I'm not sure why they did that. Is it because they had previously released the Kelly Trump film?

[candela]

Here is a picture of Aliona taken from the German MMV Lolita 2 DVD in a scene with Bruno SX.

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I have nothing to do with recent emails to EGAFD or IAFD but I already made this post on EGAFD last year which apparently went unnoticed

There are either multiple versions of this movie or the MMV Lolita 2 DVD is incomplete. Screenshots on the MMV cover of Lolita 1 (on the disc is in fact the entirely different Joe D'Amato movie) are from scenes that are not on the Lolita 2 DVD.

[Walter Burns]

candela wrote:

> Here is a picture of Aliona taken from the German MMV Lolita 2
> DVD in a scene with Bruno SX.

That's good enough for me.

> There are either multiple versions of this movie or the MMV
> Lolita 2 DVD is incomplete. Screenshots on the MMV cover of
> Lolita 1 (on the disc is in fact the entirely different Joe
> D'Amato movie) are from scenes that are not on the Lolita 2
> DVD.

I don't understand this correctly, I guess. What do screenshots on the cover of one film have to do with another film?

btw, I have seen Lolita (2) as For Sentimental Reasons. I don't remember who distributed it here.

Also, in my copy a performer was credited as Sabrina de Angelis. I assumed it was the tranny who got involved with Gessica Massaro.
Now I see that EGAFD already lists a Sabrina de Angelis. I 7 vizi capitali is her only title, which also stars Gessica Massaro. Makes me wonder if a) Sabrina de Angelis is indeed the tranny from Lolita, or even b) if I 7 vizi capitali is the original Italian title of Lolita?

OK, according to this webpage I 7 vizi capitali = Lolita (2).

[candela]

>I don't understand this correctly, I guess. What do screenshots on the cover of one film have to do with another film?

Well if you read my previous thread you can see the DVD covers. MMV has released 2 DVDs called Lolita 1 and Lolita 2. The covers make them look like sequels. But Lolita 1 is in fact a completely different Joe D'Amato movie. However, the cover shows scenes from the real Lolita film but those scenes are not on the Lolita 2 dvd. Therefore there must be different versions of this movie or the Lolita 2 dvd is incomplete.

[Walter Burns]

I knew about Lolita 1 & 2 being different films (I have seen both).

I didn't read your thread -- otherwise I wouldn't have done research on I 7vizi capitali or Sabrina De Angelis.

I see your point now. I got confused because I had a different idea than you about what you meant by the expression "real Lolita film". For me the 'real' Lolita film is the D'Amato one. Lolita is part of the original Italian title of the D'Amato film, while this is not the case for the film I have seen as For Sentimental Reasons. So in effect, I thought you were saying that screenshots of the D'Amato film on the box cover of MMV's part 1 were not in MMV's part 2, so part 2 was edited, which made no sense to me.

In conclusion, we can assume that I 7 vizi capitali is probably the same movie as Lolita as released by Colmax in France. And that MMV has released an edited version of the film as Lolita 2. Do you happen to remember the duration of Lolita 2 as released by MMV?

[jj]

I too spotted apparent discrepancies too in the various versions available.
offered. Nowhere in the following could I find Mylena.

The Colmax version [I assume this is the one cited on iafd]:
Gessica encounters Sabrina de Angelis whilst out riding and there is an instant spark. She is apparently unaware of Sabrina's 'secret'. Sabrina:
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1) House-guest [Alban's daughter?] Michelle Soavy- spied-on by Ceray, b/g;
2) Lea Martini- spied-on by Gessica- anal;
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3) The kitchen-maid [XNK2104, presumably Olivia Costa]- b/g;
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4) Gessica- anal with Zenza Raggi;
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5) An outdoor party: Sabrina masturbates an unknown male while Gessica has gone upstairs with Philippe Dean- anal. A waiter walks in on them and Gessica quickly has him stripped for action as well- DP;
6) Alba drops Gessica off in town and meets Sabrina- BJ for Alban;
7) Back home again, Gessica fucks Alban;
8) Lea has another turn with Zenza- b/g;
9) Aliona arrives at the house with Bruno Aissix and Sabrina- the latter watches as Aliona and Bruno have anal sex;
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10) Bruno and Alban exchange meaningful glances; Gessica prepares herself for the 'final encounter' with Sabrina. The penetration is very brief and appallingly-lit. I cannot tell if a condom is used or even whether the footage is faked. The cumshot [self-cranked] appears genuine.

[candela]

>Do you happen to remember the duration of Lolita 2 as released by MMV

81 min.