Directed by 'Gabriela Ponti', produced by Dino. One of the films' props is a
banner reading 'Happy New Year 1998' so I assume the film dates from
then or somewhat later.
Cast: "Teresa Sinclair [see here], Evelyn Ramirez [Sonja Muere],
Roberto Malone, Debora Coeur, Yves Baillat, Richard Lengin, Corinne Savoy,
Sophie Presley, Philippe Soine, 'Introducing' Nadja Vignale".
None of the cast at all closely resembles this Sophie Presley;
as there are six names for only five actresses the most parsimonious
hypothesis would be that the name Sophie Presley appears as a result
of post-production error.
Sonja Muere:
[IMG]http://img168.imagevenue.com/loc155/th_49875_PDVD_000_123_155lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img167.imagevenue.com/loc355/th_49877_PDVD_004_123_355lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img145.imagevenue.com/loc904/th_49878_PDVD_005_123_904lo.jpg[/IMG];
XNK3973:
[IMG]http://img164.imagevenue.com/loc992/th_50258_PDVD_011_123_992lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img128.imagevenue.com/loc595/th_50264_PDVD_013_123_595lo.jpg[/IMG].
Also present are Jeanette la Douce:
[IMG]http://img141.imagevenue.com/loc112/th_50423_PDVD_017_123_112lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img180.imagevenue.com/loc535/th_50424_PDVD_020_123_535lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img145.imagevenue.com/loc708/th_50425_PDVD_023_123_708lo.jpg[/IMG];
and this attractive, familiar blonde:
[IMG]http://img182.imagevenue.com/loc370/th_50124_PDVD_025_123_370lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img187.imagevenue.com/loc258/th_50125_PDVD_026_123_258lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img156.imagevenue.com/loc666/th_50131_PDVD_028_123_666lo.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img186.imagevenue.com/loc486/th_50137_PDVD_006_123_486lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img182.imagevenue.com/loc458/th_50143_PDVD_008_123_458lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img106.imagevenue.com/loc1179/th_50143_PDVD_009_123_1179lo.jpg[/IMG].
Cocktail for Debora
Cocktail for Debora
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
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Re: Cocktail for Debora
XNK3973 was also in another Pontello film, 'Belle Epoque', one of the 'Obsession' series, as was Jeanette la Douce.
Re: Cocktail for Debora
....
which might mean that CS is an alias for JlaD if only we
had a complete cast-listing for B Epoque.
which might mean that CS is an alias for JlaD if only we
had a complete cast-listing for B Epoque.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
Re: Cocktail for Debora
...or of course, XNK3973 might be CS.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
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Re: Cocktail for Debora
Good post, jj. Where did you find this film?
I had it on VHS years ago, and have been unable to find it since. Do you know where I can get a version on a more up-to-date format?
Any more info on this film would be great- as would information on the enigmatic XNK3973. She has been in a few Pontello films, and I've seen her in a few photosets.
My understanding of how Pontello worked was that he often got the actors/actresses in his movie to perform in photoshoots- whether these were shot before or after the filming, I don't know. A lot of the silwa photosets of the 1990's often featured the same actresses who starred in a particular movie.
Around the time of Cocktail for Debora (1998), there were photosets of Jeanette LaDouce / Roberto Malone and another featuring XNK3973 and the
"attractive, familiar blonde" from above.
!sherlock!
I had it on VHS years ago, and have been unable to find it since. Do you know where I can get a version on a more up-to-date format?
Any more info on this film would be great- as would information on the enigmatic XNK3973. She has been in a few Pontello films, and I've seen her in a few photosets.
My understanding of how Pontello worked was that he often got the actors/actresses in his movie to perform in photoshoots- whether these were shot before or after the filming, I don't know. A lot of the silwa photosets of the 1990's often featured the same actresses who starred in a particular movie.
Around the time of Cocktail for Debora (1998), there were photosets of Jeanette LaDouce / Roberto Malone and another featuring XNK3973 and the
"attractive, familiar blonde" from above.
!sherlock!
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Re: Cocktail for Debora
If you check out the films under the DBM studio, Belle Epoque is there:
A lot of the DBM films have been butchered and cut up into compilations, such as the 'clip tipp' and 'extra stark' series. Makes documentation of the original films more difficult.
However, there are a lot of the originals there with a lot of Pontello's work intact.
A lot of the DBM films have been butchered and cut up into compilations, such as the 'clip tipp' and 'extra stark' series. Makes documentation of the original films more difficult.
However, there are a lot of the originals there with a lot of Pontello's work intact.
Re: Cocktail for Debora
Thanks. From that back-cover I'm fairly sure there are: Jeanette, XNK3973,
Nell Oslo [upper centre, with Philippe Soine] and the 'real' Sophie Presley
[in a black wig, below Nell]. It still leaves open the question of Corinne
Savoy's identity but adds weight to my supposition that the Sophie Presley
credit for 'Cocktail...' was an error.
No sign of Antonia Laffite, but you can't have everything.
"A lot of the DBM films have been butchered and cut up into compilations,
such as the 'clip tipp' and 'extra stark' series. Makes documentation of the
original films more difficult."
I never touch those comps- it's hard enough trying to make sense of the
originals that made it to disc intact, without confusing things further.
Like the Seventeen titles, that's a job for another lifetime.
Nell Oslo [upper centre, with Philippe Soine] and the 'real' Sophie Presley
[in a black wig, below Nell]. It still leaves open the question of Corinne
Savoy's identity but adds weight to my supposition that the Sophie Presley
credit for 'Cocktail...' was an error.
No sign of Antonia Laffite, but you can't have everything.
"A lot of the DBM films have been butchered and cut up into compilations,
such as the 'clip tipp' and 'extra stark' series. Makes documentation of the
original films more difficult."
I never touch those comps- it's hard enough trying to make sense of the
originals that made it to disc intact, without confusing things further.
Like the Seventeen titles, that's a job for another lifetime.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
Re: Cocktail for Debora
Sorry, can't remember exactly but I'm sure it was from an Italian outlet,
as my copy is actually titled 'Cocktail per Debora'.
3973 I've seen in at least one other title, where I think she inserted a
hollow glass tube into her pussy. She's a lot better-looking than the
caps imply.
as my copy is actually titled 'Cocktail per Debora'.
3973 I've seen in at least one other title, where I think she inserted a
hollow glass tube into her pussy. She's a lot better-looking than the
caps imply.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
Re: Belle Epoque+Love Machine
I have found all scenes from "Belle Epoque" (file a bit corrupted thats why could not make any caps with my usual tools) and should correct: there's no appearance of Nell Oslo in the movie, but with Philippe Soine is rather Antonia Laffite in the wig:
[IMG]http://img234.imagevenue.com/loc402/th_33224_Antonia_123_402lo.jpg[/IMG]
Regarding IDs: in Love Machine also appeared XNK4316 (she can be IDed by multiple earrings from both sides - compare with caps from jj's first post) as well as alias Teresa Sinclair:
[IMG]http://img104.imagevenue.com/loc526/th_33225_bscap0016_123_526lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img249.imagevenue.com/loc17/th_33345_bscap0017_123_17lo.jpg[/IMG]
Even more, I state that alias Corinne Savoy belongs to XNK3973 so Jeanette la Douce is Nadja Vignale, because no one girl from Love Machine has pale-blue colour of the eyes as Jeanette la Douce has. (thanks to Gabriel Pontello not to cover models eyes with masks!grin!)
Breast shape and some other signs allows to suggest that is XNK3973:
[IMG]http://img237.imagevenue.com/loc152/th_33346_bscap0018_123_152lo.jpg[/IMG]
and she should be Judy Jive:
[IMG]http://img189.imagevenue.com/loc81/th_33347_bscap0019_123_81lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img249.imagevenue.com/loc194/th_33350_bscap0020_123_194lo.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img234.imagevenue.com/loc402/th_33224_Antonia_123_402lo.jpg[/IMG]
Regarding IDs: in Love Machine also appeared XNK4316 (she can be IDed by multiple earrings from both sides - compare with caps from jj's first post) as well as alias Teresa Sinclair:
[IMG]http://img104.imagevenue.com/loc526/th_33225_bscap0016_123_526lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img249.imagevenue.com/loc17/th_33345_bscap0017_123_17lo.jpg[/IMG]
Even more, I state that alias Corinne Savoy belongs to XNK3973 so Jeanette la Douce is Nadja Vignale, because no one girl from Love Machine has pale-blue colour of the eyes as Jeanette la Douce has. (thanks to Gabriel Pontello not to cover models eyes with masks!grin!)
Breast shape and some other signs allows to suggest that is XNK3973:
[IMG]http://img237.imagevenue.com/loc152/th_33346_bscap0018_123_152lo.jpg[/IMG]
and she should be Judy Jive:
[IMG]http://img189.imagevenue.com/loc81/th_33347_bscap0019_123_81lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img249.imagevenue.com/loc194/th_33350_bscap0020_123_194lo.jpg[/IMG]