Creole Connection - alias for Aliona

[asscander]

According to castlist Aliona should be credited as Ornella Chevron:
[IMG]http://img133.imagevenue.com/loc659/th_21244_bscap0006_122_659lo.jpg[/IMG]

[Walter Burns]

Why?

[asscander]

4 girls only are playing:
Anna Jerez - herself
Victoria Gamma - Princesse Orisha
Monique Rotshield - Nicolette
Ornella Chevron by exclusion should be Aliona

Do you have some remarks?

[Walter Burns]

Yes.

I have doubts on the proper connection between the girl pictured at Anna Jerez and her DBM alias. Take a look at Lucille Marx.

Better yet, take a look at Versaute Verwandte. Both Anna Jerez and Lucille Marx are listed for this movie on the EGAFD. Take a guess who appears and how she was credited:

[IMG]http://img235.imagevenue.com/loc153/th_53762_Versauteverwandte_123_153lo.jpg[/IMG]

Even if you don't accept my claim that the girl currently listed as Anna Jerez is the same girl as Lucille Marx/Kate Woman, you still have to draw the conclusion that the exotic looking girl in Creole Connection appears in Versaute Verwandte as Ornella Chevron.
I can add that I have seen both movies, and Aliona does only appear in Creole Connection. And the DBM alias Anna Jerez only appears in that movie as well.

My conclusion? The DBM alias of Aliona is Anna Jerez ... or Monique Rothschild. Since I know of only 1 DBM appearance of both Nicolette and Aliona, I can't draw any conclusion which one is supposed to be Monique Rothschild and which one is supposed to be Anna Jerez.

I am most anxious to see any photographic evidence concerning both the credited names and the girls who appear in Dream Teens and Cars, Game Over and Hot Season (note that Lucille Marx is listed here too, as Ornella Chevron). Because something doesn't quite add up and at this point, I trust my own memories of the titles I have seen more than that I trust the EGAFD.

[asscander]

Thanks, Walter, for your detailed opinion. I agreed with you for most points but one: the actress EGAFD-named as Anna Jerez for sure is not Lucille Marx (I have seen 'Anita III' and 'Babette - French Baby' and if you wish I can place some pics with her from these movies).
Unfortunately, I just have seen only several scenes from "Versaute Verwandte" and "Dream Teens and Cars" where this creole girl was playing and never castlists or boxcovers of these and others films with her appearance, so I dont have enough proof to confirm your very logical and evident ID ideas.

[jj]

I've just got hold of 'verwandte' so I'll do some caps [as soon as I
get some sleep :- ) ]

[jj]

........but meanwhile, the one thing I seem to recall from 'French Baby'
is that Lucille has big and apparently natural tits, whereas from the only
other title of Anna's I've seen hers seem very obviously [and badly]
enhanced.....

[Walter Burns]

asscander wrote:

> Thanks, Walter, for your detailed opinion. I agreed with you
> for most points but one: the actress EGAFD-named as Anna Jerez
> for sure is not Lucille Marx (I have seen 'Anita III' and
> 'Babette - French Baby' and if you wish I can place some pics
> with her from these movies).


I am going on the alias Kate Woman. I don't remember if it was "Hot Video" or "Video Extr?mes", but I do have a Frech magazine somewhere with an interview and pictorial of Kate Woman. There is no doubt in my mind tht this girl is the one who appeared in Creole Connection. Whether she is Lucille Marx, I don't know. I haven't seen a single movie i which a performer was credited as Lucille Marx.

p.s. I remember Kate Woman having natural tits, or at least not obviously enhanced. If I have some free time, I will try to find the magazine again.

[jj]

Cast; and 'Anna' and Chrystelle, from 'verwandte':
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That 'Pegasus' butt-tattoo is pretty distinctive...

Also present are Jessica Henty and Paula Murphy:
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I provisionally favour Jasmin Delamar for Paula and Marina Medoc for
Jessica, largely on the basis of their relative prominences in the cast-list
and in the film but also because I have a suspicion that I've come across
the name 'MM' before in relation to Jessica.

Caps from 'Creole Connection':
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[IMG]http://img136.imagevenue.com/loc865/th_11403_PDVD_016_123_865lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img136.imagevenue.com/loc904/th_11404_PDVD_017_123_904lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img155.imagevenue.com/loc1019/th_11405_PDVD_018_123_1019lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img121.imagevenue.com/loc1041/th_11410_PDVD_021_123_1041lo.jpg[/IMG].

The only actress and alias common to both titles is the dusky beauty
above and 'Ornella Chevron'. Therefore the alias 'Anna Jerez' must belong
to either Nicolette or Aliona. I can find no 'provenance' for the equation
of Monique Rothschild with Nicolette other than the bald statement to that
effect on the page for 'Creole Connection' so, as Walter says, that alias
and Anna Jerez must await further information.

As to Lucille Marx being Ornella Chevron, the following caps of Lucille
from 'French Baby' demonstrate I think that they are substantially different,
to the extent IMO even of having different ethnic origins:

[IMG]http://img230.imagevenue.com/loc120/th_12057_PDVD_000_123_120lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img209.imagevenue.com/loc391/th_12058_PDVD_001_123_391lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img193.imagevenue.com/loc388/th_12074_PDVD_003_123_388lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img160.imagevenue.com/loc806/th_12079_PDVD_004_123_806lo.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img223.imagevenue.com/loc13/th_12084_PDVD_005_123_13lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img133.imagevenue.com/loc705/th_12085_PDVD_006_123_705lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img202.imagevenue.com/loc484/th_12087_PDVD_008_123_484lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img196.imagevenue.com/loc428/th_12092_PDVD_009_123_428lo.jpg[/IMG].
Note also that she's credited as 'Lucile'- I have also failed to find any
source for the name 'Lucille Marx', only for 'Lucille'. I can't comment on
'Kate Woman' at all as I have seen neither of her credited titles.

[Walter Burns]

Kate Woman is most definitely Ornella Chevron and not Lucille Marx (meaning EGAFD should switch some titles and aliases around).

Geez, Alec will have a lot work to do.