The chase

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chiavatorcortese
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The chase

Post by chiavatorcortese »

The female cast given by Private in the final credits is this:

Andy Priscilla
Holly Black
Cherette
Michelle
Krisztina
Johanna
Isabelle La Rouche
Lorita Rein
Valentina

Venezuelan girls:
Oriana
Amalia
Juliette
Vivianne
Amber

IAFD gives this cast:

Amalia [Facial]
Ambar [Facial]
Andy Priscilla [Facial]
Cherelle [Facial]
Holly Black [Facial]
Isabella LaRouche (as Isabella)
Johanna [Facial]
Julietta
Michaela Soavi
Oriana [Anal Facial Bald]
Sophie Call [Facial Bald]
Valentina Velasquez [Facial]
Vivienne Clash [Facial]

and this Scene Breakdowns

Scene 1. Ambar, Alberto Rey
Scene 2. Amalia, Isabella LaRouche, Julietta, Oriana, Alberto Rey, Riny Rey
Scene 3. Holly Black, Reinhardt
Scene 4. Andy Priscilla, Zenza Raggi
Scene 5. Michaela Soavi, Nick Lang, Reinhardt
Scene 6. Oriana, Jan Hedin, Zenza Raggi
Scene 7. Amalia, Cherelle, girl, Johanna, Oriana, Sophie Call, Valentina Velasquez, Vivienne Clash, Alberto Rey, Jan Hedin, Reinhardt, Riny Rey, Zenza Raggi

EGAFD's cast is incomplete:

Andy Priscilla
Cherelle
Isabella [11]
Johanna [6] as Johanna?
Valentina Velasquez

and the venezuelan Amalia and Amber

So we can say:

Scene 1. Ambar, Alberto Rey
Scene 2. Amalia, Isabella LaRouche, Julietta, Oriana, Alberto Rey, Riny Rey
Comparing the names from the final credits and these given by IAFD, we have to do with 3 Venezuelan girls (Amalia, Oriana and Juliette/Julietta) and 1 european girl (Isabelle La Rouche); and the lineaments fit with this. If Isabella [11] given by EGAFD is Isabelle La Rouche, as it would be easy to think, she is with no doubts euroean and not venezuelan; and EGAFD pics is wrong. The caucasian girl in this scene, redhead (La Rouche) is, I believe, the one listed in EGAFD as Valentina, who appears in Private Stories 5, according to IAFD's and EGAFD's casts, together with another girl called Isabella La Rouche: maybe some confusion arised from this.
Scene 3. Holly Fander, Reinhardt
Scene 4. Andy Priscilla, Zenza Raggi
Scene 5. Michele Soavy, Nick Lang, Reinhardt
Scene 6. Oriana, Jan Hedin, Zenza Raggi
Scene 7. Amalia, Cherelle, Johanna [6], Oriana, Sophie Call, Valentina Velasquez, Vivienne Clash, Valentina, Alberto Rey, Jan Hedin, Reinhardt, Riny Rey, Zenza Raggi
In this final orgy we have 2 more girls that I can't identify: a familiar brunette and a redhead in red stockings. Both look european more than latinas. 2 are also the names of credit list that we must assign: one is in the euro group: Lorita Rein; the other one is in the venezuelan group: Vivianne. Considering that we have not a name for Vivianne Clash in the euro list, I suppose that this Vivianne is Vivienne Clash, wrongly inserted in the venezuelan list. If I'm right, we have still 2 unknown girls; one of them would be Lorita Rein, for the other one we miss also the name.

At the end, these must be the credits/IAFD/EGAFD euro girls correspondences:

Andy Priscilla/Andy Priscilla/Andy Priscilla
Holly Black/Holly Black/Holly Fander (my integration)
Cherette/Cherelle/Cherelle
Michelle/Michaela Soavi/Michele Soavy (my integration)
Krisztina/Sophie Call/Sophie Call (my integration)
Johanna/Johanna/Johanna [6]
Isabelle La rouche/Isabelle La Rouche/Valentina (my correction)
Lorita Rein/?/?
Valentina/Valentina Velasquez/Valentina Velasquez
unknown girl

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"Comparing the names from the final credits and these given by IAFD....."

This is confusingly-put, on a confusing topic : -)
I've only ever seen the surname 'Larouche' associated with Isabella on iafd
[although I believe it's Private in origin] and I don't see how they [or
anyone] could so confidently state her to be European, especially without giving
a pic. All the girls in scene 2 look to me to be South American [and the
purple-henna with the retrousse nose and white lingerie may reappear as your
'familiar brunette' in scene 7]. I could spot neither V Clash/V Morillo nor
Valentina [i.e. the Euro redhead; not V Velasquez, who is credited on the DVD
as plain Valentina] anywhere in the final scene.
I agree that the red-lingeried frizzy brunette [a marked mole on the lower left
cheek] is probably Euro but she doesn't seem familiar.

I prefer to read Vivianne as the retrousse in scene 2 [BTW, the other girl in the
"non-Amalia/Oriana" pairing is called Coral in the DVD cast-menu] and the
?Euro unknown in sc. 7 as Lorita Rein- but other interpretations will also hold
water... as to Private's cast-listings, I wouldn't give a brass farthing for them;
and the DVD-credits are anyway significantly different.

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Obviously I can be wrong (as it often happens !doh!), but I find the redhead in scene 2 identical to Valentina, as I said (see last pics in EGAFD profile, not the first ones; also tits fit). If you don't accept this, yes, all the topic is confused !confused!.

To add some confusion !grin!, I must correct myself about scene 7: there is another venezuelan girl over Amalia and Oriana.

This scene unfortunately has the usual fault of the orgy scenes: too short frames and most of them close up of the sexual orgasm, so that is very difficult to say who are the owners of those cunts and asses !annoyed!. But the girls are 11 and I recognise with no doubts Amalia, Oriana, Cherelle, Johanna, Sophie Call !love!, Valentina Velasquez and the redhead girl of scene 2 (whether she is Valentina or not); then there is a venezuelan long-curly-red haired girl who would be the Amber of scene 1; finally a girl who has the hair shorter than usually Vivienne Clash has, but she could well be her; and 2 unknown girls: the red lingered one and a familiar brunette.
Given that you don't see neither Vivienne nor the (by me) presumed Valentina in the final scene, I try to indicate them referring to runtime and using the disposition of the girls in the final cum moment !tumbleweed!.
The one I call familiar brunette is the one who at runtime 1:15:50 of my copy touches the tits of Cherelle while this one fucks. The One I IDed as Valentina appears at 1:16:34 and licks a guy together with Amalia and Oriana (see also at 1:16:49). The one I IDed as Vivienne is well visible at 1:18:24 behind Cherelle left leg and at 1:20:00: she sits on the ground and rests her elbow on a yellow armchair, between the bodies of two standing guys coming on the group of girls. To close, at 1:20:15 we can see a global bird's eye view of the girls grouped to receive cum; I try to trace a map: in the center we can see the black head of the familiar brunette; around her, starting from Johanna and Valentina Velasquez kissing each other and going clockwise, I see Sophie Call, the red lingered girl, the ass of "my Valentina", who juts into the center so that her head is in the center near the familiar brunette's one; then Amalia, Cherelle and Oriana; near Amalia, but out of the circle is the one I presume to be Vivienne Clash. Amber is not present in this shot and this is why I forget to list her in my first post.
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Re: The chase

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The sc. 2 redhead [redhead?] has significantly smaller tits than Valentina's, IMO.

I'll take another look- and I hope the DVD runtime matches your figures !!

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Thank, sir !hatsoff!

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Re: The chase

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jj wrote:

> I'll take another look- and I hope the DVD runtime matches your
> figures !!


Is there anything wrong with your DVD player? !grin!
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Re: The chase

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chiavatorcortese wrote:
> Is there anything wrong with your DVD player? !grin!

No, and my memory's fine, too.
However, I am obliged occasionally to indulge the distasteful necessity of earning
a living, which leaves me little enough time for sleep, let alone identifying obscure
South American popsies : -)

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I was waiting for such a wise answer, as usual from you, sir :-)
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I'll have to get some wisdom first, then......

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Re: The chase

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Taken another look- sorry for delay.

Sc. 2: Ambar [same IMO- and Kafka's I suspect- as Amalia]/Oriana is one pair;
the other pair is Coral [name from the DVD cast-menu], an Amerindian-looking
black-hair, and the purple-henna shoulder-length fringe in the white lingerie- she
has a retroussee nose and buck-teeth. The latter reappears in sc. 7 in black
fishnets [e.g. 71.08, 71.39 on the DVD]- she doesn't appear in the cast-menu.
IMO these are all S American.

Sc. 7:
75.50, 76.34 and 80.00 are IMO all the buck-teeth from sc. 2.
78.24 and far right from 79.53 to 79.56 is an unknown [dunno why, but she looks
Euro] shortish redhead- and in that same segment the buck-teeth is on the left].
The cast-menu does not include: the permed redhead in the red lingerie from
sc.7; Cherelle; the buck-teeth; nor the pageboy-cut purple-henna at 71.30.

The notes give the female cast [from the VHS, I assume] as "Andy [i.e. Priscilla],
Valentina [i.e. Velasquez], Lorita Rein, Isabelle Larouche, Julietta, Coral,
Angelica, Isabelle, Vivianne, Holly Black, Johan[n]a, Michelle [Soavy, I
assume], Oriana, Sophe Call. Fourteen names, of whichj I'd not care to guess
amongst LR/IL/J/A/Isabelle [again]/V. My guess, 4WIW, is Private's usual
sloppiness has led to a surplus of names- and at this stage they rarely kept
good records of who exactly was who, especially where the minor cast was
concerned. At least I believe we agree on the actual number of girls in sc. 7?
I think it's futile to waste more time on this, to be honest [img]http://www.egafd.com/forum/smileys/deadhorse.gif[/img]
I agree it's frustrating, but there's not much we can do about it : -(

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