2006 - New Rates for Female Performers

[superior]

Just to be controversial but surely the fact that there are so few guys means that the reliable ones who can do the job can charge pretty much what they like (obviously within reason) because the opposite also applies to what you say above - without the guys who can perform you have no business either!!

[marcusmaxius]

Well I have to agree with what you said Superior. I Marcus London and the infamous Tony De sergio are here in LA reading this and it makes us laugh. We all know that porn is all about the girls but unless you just want to see girl/girl with toys or fucking machines you need the guys...like it or not and if a guy has to do a D/P or anal scene with a girl this could be looked upon in a similar vein to a girl having rates for each act. There are a large amout of top male preformers here in the US that do not do D/P's or work along side other guys or just simply work in a scene with any more than 2 guys total. No one has a problem with that here and also if a guy could work every day and be booked 6 days a week for months and only need to shoot one hour of footage maybe the guys would not mind working for 250 pounds a scene but that is not the case in the UK.

We understand as directors oursleves that budgets can be tight but maybe its time that UK directors and producers got creative and have the funds to pay the better performers (boy and girl) instead of trying to scrape every penny and have the end result being a cheap home movie.

We are a handful of respected male performers who have made a name for ourselves and we are sick and tired of new directors basically trying to dictate to us what the going rate is. We also have the choice to work only for the better companies so good luck to you.

Try looking at what companies like Harmony, Relish and Private are producing because they have no problem paying the right rate to the guys.

There's an old saying here....you get what you pay for. Pay peanuts..get monkeys.

[lukeolson]

I totally disagree with this post. Who says you have the right to lay out the rates for all female performers for 2006? it's like you're bullying other producers into following suit.

At ?500 for b/g DP you're getting close to what girls earn in the US for a similar scene. Considering how much more US companies earn it seems pretty silly to raise your rate of pay when you don't have to.

Before posting your rates, did you think of what smaller producers might think? those people who perhaps can't afford to pay those rates, or those who don't want to.

Given that there are so few reliable guys it does seem correct that they should charge more. It seems you've got the whole business idea backwards. You said yourself, the talent pool is small and unreliable therefore you should pay more for someone reliable given that they are so hard to find. Regarding girls rates, there is hardly enough work to go round for girls as it is, so in any other business that certainly wouldn't warrant a rate increase.

[laralatex]

As i've always said, if you take the time to find new male performers, you will find them. I've tested quite a few new guys, who are now major players as the male talent in the UK (their quote not mine). But I have the time to resource and find them. I don't do it by email (a definate no-no) but by agents who don't charge comission for trying a guy out (as they will reap the rewards when you find a good 'un).

And I agree with you. Hell will freeze over when I pay a guy more than I will pay a girl.

[Jayce Xaveri]

Hi Lara
Well you can always try me out...
I have worked for many of the big players here in the Uk..
But we have never met...
So by all means If you are looking for a Male performer that can perform, then please get in touch....
Jayce
http://www.jayce-xaveri.co.uk

[RogerCockUK]

I am with Lukeolson - Hey Rob who put you in charge!?
Since 1994 or so when I have been shooting adult videos or staring in them I have seen several increases in the modelling rates...

If you want to pay those prices go right ahead but many of us producers will not pay that or follow suit.. Market forces dictate what producers pay models generally - As I am sure you are aware the biggest budget element in a production is your CAST and if you are paying models so much then your nett profit (shoud you actually turn a profit?) would be bugger all... So after all the hard work, belly aching, blood, sweat and tears you are losing money now so why make anything in the first place?

Plenty of models have worked with me and I have had no problems and for what they were paid they are happy with.. Also, there is always new female talent entering the arena and they will work for smaller producers as well as eventually the bigger companies or work abroad - The female models are no idiots they are I am sure happy to work for you at those rates but I am sure they wouldn't turn down working for me at my rates for 3 - 4 hrs of easy work at my standard rates either....Its all extra easy work and extra cash for them too...

Roger Cock

[Joe A]

The girls get the pounding and the guys get a lot more pleasure, specially after seeing Robs latest clips. The girls deserve every penny they earn...

Look at the number of new male performers who are even offering to work for almost nothing, trying to gain a foothold. Maybe there are few future superstuds amongst them. It might be time for the producers to look at the newbies and take them more seriously.

Who have more fans.. The girls or the guys. Let a male star post looking for females to work with him and a female does the same. Who'll get more replies. The girl, because that's who most of the consumers watch.. Not the guys. why are there now so many chat/text live shpws on tv ? Because the consumer can make personal contact with the girls.

The above is no way disrespect to any of the male performers in the industry. It is the only way to say that the girls deserve Robs and any other producers who agree with him and they raise the current rates. I have to say that some of the guys do deserve equal or almost equal but they don't get dp'd and get covered in cum at the end of a scene.

Rob.. That two you owe me now.. LOL

[Jayce Xaveri]

Hi Joe
You know me, and i have been in this biz for nearly 4 years,
and only now i am being known as a pro performer...
It takes time....
Don't know if I'll ever get to be a super stud, but i'll try
But i will take work as and when it comes up...
I have a minimum rate but if a producer wishes to pay more then great...
I can really afford to pick and choose shoots...
Jayce

[RogerCockUK]

Joe A - clearly you haven't been in this business as long as I have and it has always been this way and it won't change with regards to cum shots or DP, the audience or at least producers are demanding more extreme scenes from the girls involved, and so great if that is the case depending upon what they are being asked to perform - then yes they should be entilted to an increased fee in my opinion.

By all means allow yourself & Mr Stone pay those proposed rates.. Cool! But I will be paying less - I appreciate the effort of some of the really great models I have worked with putting out some superb performances and putting up with alot but I think you are getting carried away with yourselves and your mutual self gratitudes. This is a business as much as being a male stud or being a female porn star or being a cameraman etc., we are in it to make a wage and why are you seemingly trying to push out the struggling or new producer? They should be entitled too try and make a movie or create web content too but by introducing prices that are beyond there means would exclude them from contributing and hiring these models because of false levels of pay. Let the models themselves decide but when it comes down to it I have MY bidget and you have yours - Great! There will still be models willing to work for me at my rates which are still very good for what they do...

Here enduth me rantings..LOL!

Roger Cock