Lets Take On The Pirates

[Twingo]

[quote]Codecs are moving forward at a fast rate. We have a new live one from Microsoft next week. I seen it 2 months ago. It was streaming 450 k live and it was as good as 1500 less than a year ago[/quote]

This is entirely untrue. There is no new codec from MS that has improved anything, Video codec move at a slow rate, take the jump from MPEG2/MPEG4AVC, over 10 years. Although both Microsoft/MPEGLA, the companies who hold the MPEG codecs etc etc, are all working on new codecs, none of these are going to be finished for years and years to come.

If video codec was moving at such a fantastic rate like you think then you would have realised that the broadcom chips your supplying in your IPTV are absolutely useless as they will no longer work with any of them and people would be buying new boxes every week to keep up with the great speed in innovation.

Im not entirely sure if your trying to mislead people here or your being misinformed by the wrong people, but believe me, i happen to know whats happening at MS and MPEGLA regarding audio/video and i can assure you with 99.9% knowledge that there will be new video codec/audio codec standards other that what has already been announced for at least sometime and the next ones that will be released are focussed at mobile devices and the power envelopes that are available on them devices.

[quote]Its an amazing buzz right now being a part of this revolution, we were desribed as Punk TV, Just like punk rock did in the 70's we are rocking the very foundation of broadcast. This technology will not go away because the people want it.[/quote]

Im not even sure there is a UK provider who can actively sells IPTV boxes to the general public at the moment, so the only buzz that is happening, is with all the people who have invested into an unproven technology. I mean for something that is such a great revolution, so much interest........why do i know of absolutely nobody in the UK with such a system? Why is it not advertised in any of the news papers or on any TV channel. Why is it that the general public cannot buy a box......why is everything still in pre-launch status on every IPTV website ive visted (inc yours) like is has been for the last 2 years?

We could carry this thread on for years to come, but i felt like ive said enough. For anybody else reading

1. 600Kbit stream is not TV quality. Killergram/Lady Sonia/Jim Slip/Terrys websites all put out streams which are more than double the bandwidth using WMV, VC1 will see a 10% improvment max, its been pretty much proved in almost all tests and the only real difference is support for interlacing, which it needed to become a standard.

2. Who's PPV are you going to get your movies from.......IPTV at 1200Kbit or BT/Virgin at 8000Kbit. Pricing between the two will be almost the same.

3. Its not going to stop the pirates, IPTV/WMV/VC1 streams are already cracked to some degree. Most pirates i know, wouldnt even buy the stuff they download. Its just because its there and is free that they bother. I bet most of us have watched a perfect copy of some films we would have never paid to rent/buy/cinema to watch. Whilst you may see your movies copied all over the xxx torents sites/newsgroups/p2p, i bet less than 0.5% would have purchased it, if there was no other way to watch it.

[planeterotica]

Allough i am optimistic that IPTV will eventually become mainstream within most homes but i do feel that it is still a few years away, futhermore i dont think that it will become a big earner for British porn because does anyone honestly think that the goverment will allow hardcore porn to be beamed into anyones home in the U.K. the anti porn brigade will be up in arms and their minority voices are always heard.

The goverment would only need to make it illegal to view porn via IPTV and with the goverment snoopers we now have it wouldnt be long before a few people were hauled in front of the courts and given a hefty fine and put on the sex offenders register, if this happened most porn lovers would stick with watching porn via dvd which means it would be Win Win for the pirates !sad!

[Phil mCc]

Twingo, you are so far off the mark, Broadcom supports VC1,MPEG2,4, H264 and just about everything else. The new live improvement is within VC1. All the big Microsoft Partners saw it at IBC me included. 2 days ago I saw further demonstations in the parlimentry buildings. I am not sure why you are being so negitive but you are. If we all had you views man would still be in caves. I see TV quality every day at 600-800kbs on a 42inc Plasma. So does anyone else that visits my office. Your doom and gloom stories about changing boxes every week are childlike. Virgin etc has a limited number of channels and in the new age content will rule. As and example I have 47 Indian channels. You need to stop spouting %'s I don't know where you get them from but they are not from the excepted sources, looks to me like they are coming from forums. And I am not sure if you would call Tiscali IPTV but if you do then they are on sale.
And yeh we are excited I am in Venus show Berlin with a box running from Vodaphone 3G card. Never done so much business, Frank Thring sends his regards to you all,

Phil McC