TAKING THE PISS!!!!!!!!

[Kimberly Scott]

Hi there .... so... what do you think "a professioanl model" is? well apparently pro model means: do everything, degrate yourself and of cousre why not fisted by 15 black guys... wowo will be a fun... heheheh so here the story goes:

Few months ago my partner, TJ, was contacted by some reputable photographer/videosgrapher looking for new faces and (of course at the time was buzzing around me cuz of Prof Tubs story) 2 months later chasing him up for some answer or comfirmation or anything we FINALLY got a replay saying something like " was sooooo f* busy and you as a male performer are "30 years to old and over weight, so i would not need you in any of my shoots, we are really looking for guys around 20-22 5'11 and of fit body, pref with at least 8-9" to his name" (NB: there is no any mark what kind of guys this "reputable photographer" is looking for!) and for me:

"I have a shoot in mind for Kimberley if she is intrested, it involves a shoot with another girl and 15 black guys, would be a degration shoot, slapping, hair pulling, and very very hard fucking and involve fisting, i take it she is OK with that being a professional model ???, as far as rates go i have limited budget, looking at payimng around ?300, shoot would last appx 5-6 hours and inc pics at end of shoot."

On few simple questions lile who is that for, where and all the rest, TJ got totally blanked and of course the last email was:

"Sorry did not mean to offend, just thought she was professional model and was up for anything."

So my questions are:

1. What does "Professional Model" mean in UK understandings?
2. Are they that desparate and so personal low respect models to do that for that money and that timing for even non knowing who for?

or may be I'm wrong and that's why so-called "Adult Indusrty" is goin rapidly DOWN!!!!!. And one of the many reasons why I'm considering quiting!

[Hardup]

Hiya Kimberley,"professional model" only really means you model for a living;different models work to diferent levels-that a given. It sounds to me they are playing mind games with you,trying to put presure on you.

[Paul Taylor]

ignore move on, don't quit over it, its not worth it if you enjoy the work, letting one person put you off, people hide behind e-mails, shame but true.

You are a professional model who works in the adult industry for a career and gets paid. There are many levels to it, but what one will do and another wont doesn't make a model more professional than the other if you get my meaning.

Paul

[one eyed jack]

Professional model to me means someone who keeps herself fit,looking pretty, nice nails, multiple change of outfits, current certs, ids and turns up on time on the day she is booked.

You can be professional even if you do solo. Professional doesnt mean you fuck everybody and do everything.

As for ?300 for all that, its a FUCKING INSULT! You shouldnt get less than ?1500 for something like that because its off the radar so therefore should the price.

I'm not against that type of shoot but I would personally like to know a model beyond a few shoots than to expect this from the off and I would certainly pay accordingly for a shoot of that calibre and to be honest, very few girls can or will ever work to that level convincingly.

I fear some producers have no idea how to progress toward "intense psychological" scenes like this and can appear to be disrespectful from the outset.

[one eyed jack]

A bit of advice Kimberly or to any girl considering a shoot like this even getting a good rate...Do your homework on the producer and find out who has worked for him and ask that model what it was like to work for him etc.

I know times are hard but dont fuck yourself up for the money because you will regret it and ultimately its the rest of the porn biz that pays when you think we are all sleazy scum bags.

I know because Ive heard it from several girls whe end up blaming the business in general rahter than themselves or the people they worked with.

[Kimberly Scott]

exactly what I thought.... About me quiting: that's not the only one reason but one of the many and @OEJ I haven't even concidered to take it... I felt soooo sooo insulted (for myself and for my partner too). No one deserves such appuling attitude, no one, professional or amatuer!

I'm not gonna say name here but I can say that the guy is well known.

Thanks for the support. That makes me feel a bit better and make a lil sence in all that porn swamp!

[Secretease]

Professional model means being paid to do modelling work within your levels. It sure doesn't mean you'll do anything for the money.

Hope you get some good shoots very soon. Are you on any modelling sites?

[tj the cameraman]

Well i have had it out with the guy, offered to meet him to discuss the proposal and guest what, no reply, guest his bottle has gone, unless he reads this and wants to reconsider, i'm still up for it mate !
To be honest, Kims not to bothered with it all, just pissed off with all the time wasters and promisses, and to the answer to " Are you on any modelling sites?" well she was but no longer, they have done nothing for her so whats the point in staying on them, i think Secretease see approtched you and got no reply ?
After all this i can really see why so many models are quiting the industry, and to be honest i dont blame them either.

[Secretease]

Yes she contacted me and I definitely replied.

I try to reply to all models even if I can't offer anything. My email address can sometimes go to peoples junk folder.

~Mitch~

[one eyed jack]

Maybe people should use facebook profiles to get in touch.

The spam folder and missing emails seems to be a regular cause of misunderstanding