Also I fear TJ may well be right.
I was interviewing/ chatting to a model recently and found the hassles that they have to go through with regards work.
This shit aint easy for anyone it seems. Some people seem to forget that a model is a person and for life and that abuse isnt part of the job description.
Thing is a lot of it can be remedied easy enough if people models and "producers" were to play ball....Until then...The motherfuckin' saga continues...
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Hi Kimberly
Professional model just means you work full time and get paid for your work that's your living! whether its fashion or hardcore you decide what jobs you want to undertake just like any other self-employed person.
The same goes for Photographers if they do it full time and get paid there classed as Professional.
Just forget they contacted its no worth bothering about its up to you what jobs you undertake.
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Professional model just means you work full time and get paid for your work that's your living! whether its fashion or hardcore you decide what jobs you want to undertake just like any other self-employed person.
The same goes for Photographers if they do it full time and get paid there classed as Professional.
Just forget they contacted its no worth bothering about its up to you what jobs you undertake.
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hi there all
About the pro modeling: I was thinking exactly the same
obveously I was right and the guy was taking the piss... Yesterday when I read the email was really shocked but now I just smile.
So from now on just to preserve my sanity and emotional stability I'm goin back to my previous activites like graphic design and video editing. If something (genuine!!!!) comes up, may be will take it, but definitely won't spend more time and effort beggin for few quid.
All info about me is available here in BGAFD actresses database and my blog.
About the pro modeling: I was thinking exactly the same
So from now on just to preserve my sanity and emotional stability I'm goin back to my previous activites like graphic design and video editing. If something (genuine!!!!) comes up, may be will take it, but definitely won't spend more time and effort beggin for few quid.
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As Paul said there are many levels to being a Pro model, all models Pro & Am get paid so all are the same so we will say 'models'.
The levels of models are all different & some may get offended by requests from various film makers depending on the models experience, we all get the right to say no if its beyond a persons limits but the producer also will try to get the scene he wants so they have to ask.
I agree with Terry when he said the pay should have been around the ?1000-1500 to get the serious naughty gang-bang girls interested, we know a few who would be happy to do this for good money & would have fun at the same time.
I myself have done these types of shoots over the years so it would not come as a shock if asked & if the monies not there or its out of your limits you simply say no.
Because of better standards in today industry most girls only do g-g, b-g, 3-somes & don't work any thing above & good luck to them, when i started it was expected that a girl done large gang-bangs/bukkakes as the norm & it went a lot higher before we thought the producers were taking the piss.
I laughed the other day when reading the A.I.R. site which said 'older or large models' were classed as unconventional & won't be shown on the main page, when i started it was models not doing groups / gang-bangs that were classed unconventional by producers...funny how it changes lol!.
The levels of models are all different & some may get offended by requests from various film makers depending on the models experience, we all get the right to say no if its beyond a persons limits but the producer also will try to get the scene he wants so they have to ask.
I agree with Terry when he said the pay should have been around the ?1000-1500 to get the serious naughty gang-bang girls interested, we know a few who would be happy to do this for good money & would have fun at the same time.
I myself have done these types of shoots over the years so it would not come as a shock if asked & if the monies not there or its out of your limits you simply say no.
Because of better standards in today industry most girls only do g-g, b-g, 3-somes & don't work any thing above & good luck to them, when i started it was expected that a girl done large gang-bangs/bukkakes as the norm & it went a lot higher before we thought the producers were taking the piss.
I laughed the other day when reading the A.I.R. site which said 'older or large models' were classed as unconventional & won't be shown on the main page, when i started it was models not doing groups / gang-bangs that were classed unconventional by producers...funny how it changes lol!.
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Kimberly,
Although I have never met you I am sorry to read that you are giving up on your modelling.
I wish you all the best on what you wish you do next.
Pay no attention to the guy who has sent you the email. It sounds like he is just trying it on.
I expect a lot of models get emails like that. It would be interesting to know if that is true.
Although I have never met you I am sorry to read that you are giving up on your modelling.
I wish you all the best on what you wish you do next.
Pay no attention to the guy who has sent you the email. It sounds like he is just trying it on.
I expect a lot of models get emails like that. It would be interesting to know if that is true.
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Hi Kim
Im not against multi man gang bangs but given what this producer was asking for was tantamount to gang rape.
Dont get me wrong, there are girls who love this sort of thing but usually they have to rust the person that is behind shooting it first.
Its like a woman fantasizing about rape usually does so about someone she knows.
What this guy is suggesting could get well out of order OR be a real half arsed namby pamby affair with a bunch of blokes taking it in turns in missionary and circle jerking themselves off! LOL...Well thats how it usually turns out.
Im not against multi man gang bangs but given what this producer was asking for was tantamount to gang rape.
Dont get me wrong, there are girls who love this sort of thing but usually they have to rust the person that is behind shooting it first.
Its like a woman fantasizing about rape usually does so about someone she knows.
What this guy is suggesting could get well out of order OR be a real half arsed namby pamby affair with a bunch of blokes taking it in turns in missionary and circle jerking themselves off! LOL...Well thats how it usually turns out.
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I worked with one girl in what I consider a fairly normal scene so was surprised to read a few months later that she quit for being used and abused, but thats preceislely my point.
I have no idea who she went off and worked for that turned her head inside out. Then again it might be just the escorting or both. Who knows?
I could name another dozen girls but feel its best to discourage them unless they know what they are getting into htis business for because if its just for the money then maybe they should set aside a large part of their earnings for counselling or simply not do it in the first place.
Maybe there should be a disclaimer imposed on the porn business: Only really horny sexaully broadminded people with high sex drives need apply.
You can spot those who shouldnt be doing this a mile off. they usually have that thousand yard stare look to them. Thats when my cameras go off and I tell them they shouldnt be doing it.
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I have no idea who she went off and worked for that turned her head inside out. Then again it might be just the escorting or both. Who knows?
I could name another dozen girls but feel its best to discourage them unless they know what they are getting into htis business for because if its just for the money then maybe they should set aside a large part of their earnings for counselling or simply not do it in the first place.
Maybe there should be a disclaimer imposed on the porn business: Only really horny sexaully broadminded people with high sex drives need apply.
You can spot those who shouldnt be doing this a mile off. they usually have that thousand yard stare look to them. Thats when my cameras go off and I tell them they shouldnt be doing it.
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I do agree that no girl should do anything thats dangerous or shoot a gang rape scene but large gang-bangs are quite common in the industry & always have been, don't let the one jerk Kimberly spoke to spoil it for the rest of the producers like ourselves that do safe controlled gang-bang/bukkakes.
We have bum slapping (not hard) & hair pulling (again not hard) because it looks good when a women is being fucked doggy style etc, fisting is something we avoid one because i can't be fisted so i wouldn't expect anyone else to be & finger nails can cause injuries.
A Pro film maker can make a film look rougher without roughing up the girls & if they can't they should pack it up now, we don't condone anything that could hurt a girl & agree this guy should be given a wide berth.
We have bum slapping (not hard) & hair pulling (again not hard) because it looks good when a women is being fucked doggy style etc, fisting is something we avoid one because i can't be fisted so i wouldn't expect anyone else to be & finger nails can cause injuries.
A Pro film maker can make a film look rougher without roughing up the girls & if they can't they should pack it up now, we don't condone anything that could hurt a girl & agree this guy should be given a wide berth.
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