Most of the postings seem to understand that - but I dont think Mick does. By going to the US , he will naturally have a larger pool of custom and so by having the same market share percentage will have a greater income. So if he wants an easy life ......
And whilst I have been critical of his posting he should stick with it ( if he's perpared to adapt) - the world is a small place these days - why not deal with the UK and the US ?
Rob
Is it worth it .......
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(fyrfyter) John
I tend to agree Rob...
The world is indded a very small place these days - communications in terms of travel and distance make it completely viable to grasp a chunk of a global marketplace.
I also tend to agree with regard to what I think you termed an "outburst"...
I understand Mick's frustrations and I do not, nor would I take offence - but I am sure there are many out there who will shrug their shoulders and "F@#k You then if that's your attitude"....
I didn't see it as disrespectful - but it is possible to read that into it...
Likewise a few weeks ago with Terry's comments over the "One Eyed" thing... I and many others saw Terry in a different light with regard to that...
It's perhaps better when you're the figurehead of an organisation to bite your tongue rather than vent frustration and anger....
Keep at it Mick - I very much believe there is a market for the product you're producing - I simply think you've currently entrenched yourself in a restricted marketplace. UK porn laws and repressed attitudes don't help - but the stuff you produce is "pretty tame" in so far as the law goes - you could quite easily expand your market....
I also tend to agree with regard to what I think you termed an "outburst"...
I understand Mick's frustrations and I do not, nor would I take offence - but I am sure there are many out there who will shrug their shoulders and "F@#k You then if that's your attitude"....
I didn't see it as disrespectful - but it is possible to read that into it...
Likewise a few weeks ago with Terry's comments over the "One Eyed" thing... I and many others saw Terry in a different light with regard to that...
It's perhaps better when you're the figurehead of an organisation to bite your tongue rather than vent frustration and anger....
Keep at it Mick - I very much believe there is a market for the product you're producing - I simply think you've currently entrenched yourself in a restricted marketplace. UK porn laws and repressed attitudes don't help - but the stuff you produce is "pretty tame" in so far as the law goes - you could quite easily expand your market....
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Cornish Chris
Re: Is it worth it .......
A good theme for a lesbo movie.......mmm......trouble is we a 40 years down the porn road and in harsh reality everything has been seen and done.
Several threads recently have sited humour in porn as a big plus point, and I am a firm believer in this theory, make things a laugh, show the models having fun and things just seem to go well.
Also choose your models carefully there are loads who do G/G as it is part of the job, but they have no infinity to pussy and frankly it shows.
Therefore always cast girls who are genuinely Bi.
I have several projects up my sleeve at the moment, so I won't let the cat out of the bag, too much, but include humour, good locations, and use girls that love girls and you won't go far wrong.
Also some of the best advice I ever got about what to film was from a 100% pukka lesbian, show tenderness and an understanding that 2 women know how to manipulte each others bodies, far more exactingly than us bull in a china shop guys do and the eroticism will shine through.
Cheers CC.
Several threads recently have sited humour in porn as a big plus point, and I am a firm believer in this theory, make things a laugh, show the models having fun and things just seem to go well.
Also choose your models carefully there are loads who do G/G as it is part of the job, but they have no infinity to pussy and frankly it shows.
Therefore always cast girls who are genuinely Bi.
I have several projects up my sleeve at the moment, so I won't let the cat out of the bag, too much, but include humour, good locations, and use girls that love girls and you won't go far wrong.
Also some of the best advice I ever got about what to film was from a 100% pukka lesbian, show tenderness and an understanding that 2 women know how to manipulte each others bodies, far more exactingly than us bull in a china shop guys do and the eroticism will shine through.
Cheers CC.
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George
Re: Is it worth it .......
Having had a look at your site, I would say:
1 Too much text, not enough pics.
2 The first six videos only have three girls in them (altogether, not three each), which must seem rather repetitive. Watching Danni give a total of 6 or more performances doesn't sound too exciting.
3 In this day and age, I should imagine (coz I don't know) that there is not much of a market left for videos. Surely most people have DVD players by now.
4 The site rather gives the impression that your main aim is to get punters to subsidise your blowjob habit. It might be better not to refer to yourself so much.
5 Personally I would rework the earlier videos (assuming they were shot in digital) and put them onto just a couple of DVDs with at least 4 or 5 girls on each. Variety is the spice of life.
And finally, Mick, stop being so arrogant. If you were doing everything right, you wouldn't be here whingeing.
1 Too much text, not enough pics.
2 The first six videos only have three girls in them (altogether, not three each), which must seem rather repetitive. Watching Danni give a total of 6 or more performances doesn't sound too exciting.
3 In this day and age, I should imagine (coz I don't know) that there is not much of a market left for videos. Surely most people have DVD players by now.
4 The site rather gives the impression that your main aim is to get punters to subsidise your blowjob habit. It might be better not to refer to yourself so much.
5 Personally I would rework the earlier videos (assuming they were shot in digital) and put them onto just a couple of DVDs with at least 4 or 5 girls on each. Variety is the spice of life.
And finally, Mick, stop being so arrogant. If you were doing everything right, you wouldn't be here whingeing.
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rob
Re: Is it worth it .......
George - love the last sentence !
Looks like on balance over the 23 or 24 posts Mick is outvoted !
Looks like on balance over the 23 or 24 posts Mick is outvoted !
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Bunny (HJH model)
Re: Is it worth it .......
Of course it's worth it! Mick's providing a good product and has a huge customer base - so he can't be getting that wrong, can he? I really don't think this was a whinge - he's purely stating the facts - you guys ask for a particular product, he delivers, then everyone that asked for it suddenly isn't interested.... FACT! Not arrogance.
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Giles
Good advice!
Way to go George, give the guy a good booting when he's down, bet you've made a few vids in your time.
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Old Man
my thoughts
I have to agree with most points said.
These are mine:
(1) When you say your stuff is not selling, what do you mean?
(a) You have no sales of your videos or/and membership to your site.
(b) You have some sales of your videos or/and membership to your site.
(c) You have enough sales to cover your costs of your videos or/and membership to your site.
(d) You are not making the profit you expected to make.
(2) Hand jobs, is only going to be a turn on for a few. 99% will want either full sex. That's b/g or g/g. BUT that 1% is a niche market and could be worth thousands - BUT if others are also providing the content you do, then it reduces your customers.
(3) Videos to be honest are dead. Take time to copy, low quality, a pain to post. For ease and best quality, stick to DVD.
(4) Tactics. A few things to note. You say you have been doing this two years. Well that's not long. Other sites have been going longer. Many have had LOTS of money invested. If you are one man band, and have only done a few shoots, you will find it hard. How many models have you done shoots with. I would say that you need to have worked with at least 30 models. Also you may want to think about what models you use, i.e. well know models/models who are pure armatures (exclusive to you)/bonds..... and so on. This way, you have a niche product (blow jobs) with a niche type of models (i.e. armatures).
(5) Niche. As I have said, you may want to do a pure niche area, nich as blonds who do BJ, or expand, so you cover watersports, full sex, feet..... and so on.
(6) Marketing. How do you promote your site?
(7) USA. Why are you not also getting sales from the USA? Unless you make your product 100% British, I am sure the USA would also be a good place to sell to.
(8) What is it that you want to do? Are you wanting to be a millionaire or just cover costs. I know one chap who ONLY does his site for fun. All his profits go back into the models. As such he makes no money but he does not go into debt, so his site is plodding on.
(9) If you believe in your site, then keep going.
(10) If your site was huge, then within days you would see lots of sites cloning your idea.
These are mine:
(1) When you say your stuff is not selling, what do you mean?
(a) You have no sales of your videos or/and membership to your site.
(b) You have some sales of your videos or/and membership to your site.
(c) You have enough sales to cover your costs of your videos or/and membership to your site.
(d) You are not making the profit you expected to make.
(2) Hand jobs, is only going to be a turn on for a few. 99% will want either full sex. That's b/g or g/g. BUT that 1% is a niche market and could be worth thousands - BUT if others are also providing the content you do, then it reduces your customers.
(3) Videos to be honest are dead. Take time to copy, low quality, a pain to post. For ease and best quality, stick to DVD.
(4) Tactics. A few things to note. You say you have been doing this two years. Well that's not long. Other sites have been going longer. Many have had LOTS of money invested. If you are one man band, and have only done a few shoots, you will find it hard. How many models have you done shoots with. I would say that you need to have worked with at least 30 models. Also you may want to think about what models you use, i.e. well know models/models who are pure armatures (exclusive to you)/bonds..... and so on. This way, you have a niche product (blow jobs) with a niche type of models (i.e. armatures).
(5) Niche. As I have said, you may want to do a pure niche area, nich as blonds who do BJ, or expand, so you cover watersports, full sex, feet..... and so on.
(6) Marketing. How do you promote your site?
(7) USA. Why are you not also getting sales from the USA? Unless you make your product 100% British, I am sure the USA would also be a good place to sell to.
(8) What is it that you want to do? Are you wanting to be a millionaire or just cover costs. I know one chap who ONLY does his site for fun. All his profits go back into the models. As such he makes no money but he does not go into debt, so his site is plodding on.
(9) If you believe in your site, then keep going.
(10) If your site was huge, then within days you would see lots of sites cloning your idea.
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Old Man
Your site:
Your site:
Just some comments on your site:
(1) Yawn. Its looks dull. Basic. Feels flat. Colours clash a bit. Font is small.
(2) "Welcome to the British website based in London dedicated to Amateur Hand Jobs.We have a good selection of Amateur photos and AVIs dedicated to the art of hand jobs which you won't find on any other website. On this page you will find a small selection of free samples pictures and AVIs. However for only $19.99 per month you will have access to the creme de la creme of hand jobs. " Well that will turn off people from outside the UK, and maybe those outside London. Not all of us want to see just London models.
(3) "$19.99 per month" in the firsts second you are asking for cash. I would be pressing my exist button now.
(4) " http://www.handjobheavenvideos.net/reviews/hjhvol4.htm " Bloody hell mate. Who is going to read an essay like that. Where are the pics and clips from the vid? Do you honestly think anyone would buy a film. All you need to do is a shot review, such as "see Jane give John a hand job and get covered in cream." That's all you need, not a full page essay. You then need some vid stills, or pics of the models. I have seen some sites that give 30 sec vid clips.
(5) " http://www.handjobheavenvideos.net/hjh- ... h8-DVD.htm " Do you only offer two DVD's? "Lauries... " You cannot even see what the girl looks like.
(6) The site: It seems like its a single page, with links to your vids. Yawn. Then you have a link to your members area? Well what is it? You may know what's inside, but on the sign up page, all it has is billing details. Why not tell me what I will get inside? What models, when do you update? How much MB do I get, Is it just low quality pics.
Conclusion.
To conclude, I must say your site is badly designed. It has not been set up to attract people. Its slightly confusing to what its about, my first look and it seems to be promoting your VHS sales (badly - no pics just a book about each film).
I have no idea what is in your members area.
I get the feeling, you have just paid girls to wank you off, but thought rather than being arrested for going with a hooker, film it and make cash.
Recommendations
First thing I would do is think about what you want to make the money on. If its vids, then I would have a free members area, to show clips from your vids to help sell them.
If you want to make sales from membership to your site, then you must improve the site 100%.
Your main problem is the site looks, well to be honest shit. Just re-do it, or better still pay someone to do it.
Hope this helps. Just my thoughts.
Just some comments on your site:
(1) Yawn. Its looks dull. Basic. Feels flat. Colours clash a bit. Font is small.
(2) "Welcome to the British website based in London dedicated to Amateur Hand Jobs.We have a good selection of Amateur photos and AVIs dedicated to the art of hand jobs which you won't find on any other website. On this page you will find a small selection of free samples pictures and AVIs. However for only $19.99 per month you will have access to the creme de la creme of hand jobs. " Well that will turn off people from outside the UK, and maybe those outside London. Not all of us want to see just London models.
(3) "$19.99 per month" in the firsts second you are asking for cash. I would be pressing my exist button now.
(4) " http://www.handjobheavenvideos.net/reviews/hjhvol4.htm " Bloody hell mate. Who is going to read an essay like that. Where are the pics and clips from the vid? Do you honestly think anyone would buy a film. All you need to do is a shot review, such as "see Jane give John a hand job and get covered in cream." That's all you need, not a full page essay. You then need some vid stills, or pics of the models. I have seen some sites that give 30 sec vid clips.
(5) " http://www.handjobheavenvideos.net/hjh- ... h8-DVD.htm " Do you only offer two DVD's? "Lauries... " You cannot even see what the girl looks like.
(6) The site: It seems like its a single page, with links to your vids. Yawn. Then you have a link to your members area? Well what is it? You may know what's inside, but on the sign up page, all it has is billing details. Why not tell me what I will get inside? What models, when do you update? How much MB do I get, Is it just low quality pics.
Conclusion.
To conclude, I must say your site is badly designed. It has not been set up to attract people. Its slightly confusing to what its about, my first look and it seems to be promoting your VHS sales (badly - no pics just a book about each film).
I have no idea what is in your members area.
I get the feeling, you have just paid girls to wank you off, but thought rather than being arrested for going with a hooker, film it and make cash.
Recommendations
First thing I would do is think about what you want to make the money on. If its vids, then I would have a free members area, to show clips from your vids to help sell them.
If you want to make sales from membership to your site, then you must improve the site 100%.
Your main problem is the site looks, well to be honest shit. Just re-do it, or better still pay someone to do it.
Hope this helps. Just my thoughts.