Pornstars After They Were Famous

[Jonone]

That's only like saying that a proctologist puts his finger up people's arses for a living. There's a bit more to it than that !

[max_tranmere]

Jonone - proctocologists would have no problem with their family and friends knowing that that is what they do for a living. Pornstars often keep it a secret from their friends and family. Discuss.

[shock the monkey]

Society looks down on people (especially women) who sell their body for money. Not my view in particular, but them's the facts.

A proctologist or colorectal surgeon and generally are trained surgeons anyway. has presumably studied an aspect of medicine.

What a 'porn star' basically has to know is which angle looks the best when they're getting shafted up the gary. And the required 'I'm a dirty girl me' dialogue.

[Jonone]

Max, I wasn't seeking to comment on the social acceptability or otherwise of porn, more a facetious challenge to the notion that what we do is who we are. 'Sucking cock for a living' was, I thought, a quite brusque and reductive summation of the people involved. As I said .. there's a bit more to it than that.

As Shock The Monkey pointed out they have moved on in terms of rejecting 'pornstar' as an identity, and people will differ in the extent to which they do embrace this identity. For some their occupational identity will be an important part of who they are, for others it will only be relevant when the cameras roll. For some 'star' will be the operative word which confers acceptance, achievement and validation and satisfies personal needs in this respect, for others it's all about the Benjamins (?s) and they're not too personally invested in what they do.

I would concede, of course, that it differs from other jobs in terms of its visibility, openness to misconception, and the moral baggage.

As far as fame goes are pornstars famous or notorious ?

[Big Ass Lover]

Thanks to the few people who backed me up on this. The point about wether anyone would be bothered if it was a celebrity is spot on.

[shock the monkey]

"As far as fame goes are pornstars famous or notorious ?"

Clearly not famous. I mean, the average Joe on the street could probably not pick out a UK pornstar from a line of ten twenty-something girls. Someone like Jenna Jameson or Tera Patrick, they probably could. Or the ones who would admit to watching porn anyway lol. Mid-range US stars like Eva Angelina or Taylor Rain; I doubt it.

Notorious? Once again; they simply aren't visible enough as the Uk porn industry is a cottage. Michelle Thorne got more publicity from the mainstream for being shit on X-Factor than she ever did for being in the Daily Sport.

[max_tranmere]

To continue this discussion about pornstars wanting to be famous, but not actually wanting to be famous to the extent of them getting recognised or people asking what they are doing these days.

If pornstars viewed what they do as being seady, and something which should be looked down upon, then I could understand them being secretive about it - not telling family and friends - and then disappearing after they leave the biz, and distancing themselves from it so much that they are pretty much making out that they never did it. However, when pornstars refer to themselves as 'actresses', a term used on here, a term widely used throughout the porn world, and when the people with the cameras call themselves 'directors' , 'producers' and so on - then it suggests that they view what they do as very normal and legitmate and effectively a 'career' - just like being a plumber, an accountant or an airline pilot is normal and legitimate and a 'career'.

So why the secrectiveness? Why don't they want friends and family knowing, why vanish after their two year involvment in the biz, and act like they never did it at all? They seem to want it both ways. If they behave like it IS something to be ashamed of (the secretive behaviour, freaking out that fans of theirs might know what they are doing now, never mentioning it to anyone that they ever did it - even years after they've quit) then why do they seemingly refer to it as a ''normal' thing to do - when their behaviour suggests otherwise. How many plumbers, pilots and accountants act like that?

So which is it? IS this something to be ashamed of after all? People's behaviour sort of suggests that they view it as being so, as I've said. A former soap-star or Big Brother star would have no problem with people knowing that they now work in Tesco's, for example. I'd be interested in people's view on this. People seem to want it both ways, people's behaviour seems to contradict their actions, and what they have previously implied by their actions, and so on.

[Trumpton]

warren zevon rip wrote:

> Trumpton wrote:
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> > I think Jessie J retired in 2002?
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> I miss Jessie J. What a girl.

Wasn't she a protege of Layla Jade?