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Yes JJ. Ben makes more per unit on the R18 AFAIK. The YC versions he sells the rights and therefor makes no money per unit sold. So he edits the piss scenes from the YC versions in order to draw us to his site

In short Ben does not want to include piss in the YC version incase it harms his R18 sales. He also can draw piss-freaks to his website

So let us get this straight: we are in fact better off getting the R18, which will have the piss scenes intact?

YES.

To quote Uncle Ben himself when asked about this a few months ago on his own messageboard: "Right. End Games is on R18 DVD over here. It is stronger than the VCA version, which is the same as the YC version. All my R18 releases are at the moment stronger than the VCA ones. VCA take out pissing and A2M."

At last: thank you all.

going back to my questions earlier - could this mean that the R18 DVD's might include anal and full (ie proper licking) lesbian scenes after all, AND be better than the supposedly uncensored versions off the net?

I am very keen to know.

Please confirm.

R18s are fully hard core, i.e. would include what you describe and more. You will NOT find them in HMV and similar, but only in licensed sex shops.

18 certificates (which you would get in HMV and the like) are not.

YES. Of course they do! Gordon Bennet!

Oh yeah, I feel a bit silly now.

Thanks for clearing that up Alec.