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Re: Producers o/t

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 8:40 am
by Matt
Generous isn't the word that springs to mind for someone earning $1000 for a company making 9 million profit because of her. A percentage of the money the film makes would be better.

Re: o/t Re: Producers (and Gonzo) (and what is pre

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 8:42 am
by buttsie
That would explain why Vivid backed by AT&T are growing their business in the hotel chain-cable tv side.

They have obviously crunched the numbers and seen the writing on the wall.Their foray into internet paysites to my mind is one of the biggest rip offs on the net bar none.

All their stars have their own sites usually priced at USD24-95 per month.The lure to get people inside is 4 free vids not including P & P.When you go to collect you find - only available
for USA & Canada residents-nice sting.As for the sites we'll lets just say don't bother.If they ever put all of them together(Ala Private.com)then it might be worth admittance for $USD4.95 a year.


All the download number polls are pretty much on the money.

Thanks for the info

cheers
B...OZ

Re: Producers o/t

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 9:06 am
by buttsie
To the person who invests time & money and takes the initial risk
goes the profits.

Share the risk...Share the profit

I still say $USD 1000-00 for a days work is generous regardless of what the final profit maybe.I know Doctors that after their expenses are taken out barely make USD500-00 a week and they studied for 7 years.


cheers
B...OZ

Re: o/t Re: Producers (and Gonzo) (and what is pre

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 10:21 am
by wolfie
If British producers want to expand into the American and European markets then they have to advertise themselves better. I doubt if anyone in the States knows British porn exists outside of Ben Dover. If they were to post movie samples to sites such as Jizzhut, Fuckingfree movies, Spermshack etc then the rest of the world would be directed to their sites to get the clips and if like what they see they may come back to buy.
As for criticism of Gonzo , what's the alternative? I think most of us hate Wicked / Vivid style films with inane plots, stupid dialogue and the same old 'pornstars' imagining they're Nicole Kidman . Would you rather see Hannah Harper in some Legend tosh after spending 3 hours in the make up room or in a Ben Dover? Surely no contest.

Re: o/t Re: Producers (and Gonzo) (and what is pre

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 11:57 am
by mike johnson
Gonzo porn has changed a lot since it first began. If you go back & look at "The Adventures of Buttman", it almost seems like a plotted feature by today's standards, but w/ a "you are there" POV via the vouyeuristic camerawork. Or Ed Powers' early "More Dirty Debutantes", which had a sort of grittiness & spontaneity that created a sort of cinema verite quality ( & Ed used to use a lot more girls, & more amateurs).Now, "gonzo" just means a cheap, no- plot, no- production values shoot, w/ some sort of general theme like cars or smoking--not even a real premise. For this approach to really work, the girls have to be either very attractive/sexy, or truly hot & horny; most of the time, they are neither, & the viewer is left unfulfilled.( And, if like me, wearing out the FF button.)
As I have mentioned a couple times in this forum, I am starting to like the vignette movie as an alternative to both gonzo & full-length features. You get short "stories" (usually having to do w/ sex, in itself an improvement over the features).There is some set up & tease before the sex, adding to the eroticism. A good example is "Sodomania 10", which, tho not recent, shows the potential of this genre ( & this is worth watching anywway just to see Sindy Clair).In a sense, this is "advancing to the rear," as the "shorts" or loops, no more than about 15-20 minutes long, to be seen on 8mm home movie projectors,or watched in machines at a quarter dollar a throw in arcades, is where porn was 25-30 years ago.

Re: Producers o/t

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 2:45 pm
by Officer Dibble
Quite correct Buttise. After all the movie might have flopped leaving the studio well out of pocket and in that instance I seriously doubt that the performers would be so understanding as to waive their fees if this did proved to be the case.

Anyway I'm sceptical of the $10,000,000 profit figure. It might be the case that these kind of revenues were generated but they would be dissipated throughout the whole production, distribution and retailing process, there by contributing to the employment and livelihoods of hundreds of people associated with the adult entertainment industry in general. Even if the company did make $10,000,000 net they would spend most of it on making more product, cause that's what companies do, thereby employing more performers, contracting g in technicians, hiring locations, etc, etc.


Officer Dibble - accountancy, economics and er 'book cooking'

Re: Producers

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 6:16 pm
by marcusallen
What a load of bollocks.
One man's meat is another man's poison. How the hell can anyone please everyone -can't
Discuss it forevermore but arrive at the same conclusion.
Different strokes for different folks and all the pseudo/intellectual discussions in the world aint gonna change it.

Re: Producers

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 7:50 pm
by jj
True.

o/t Re: Producers

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 11:12 pm
by buttsie
True.....I second the motion

All thoughs in favour say aye....ayeaye

Motion carried

What was said today could only be described as Intellectual Bollocks of the highest order...thats entertainment for ya

cheers
B...OZ

Re: Producers

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 2:51 pm
by Moby
If theres one thing that makes my eyes glaze over its yet another
bald fanny. They all look the same and just what the fuck is the
attraction meant to be? ....If you dare answer.