When i was filming the Jarrow march on Saturday they were handing out leaflets about this very subject, i wont bore you with all of the detail but it says that workfare just replaces paid positions so large companies get people to work for nothing as the taxpayer still has to pay their benefits.
The companies who are paid to run these schemes expect to get paid millions in bonuses, but did you know that you do not have to give your personel details to these companies yet they pretend that you have to, without your details they cannot place you on the workfare programme and the jobcentre cannot give out your personel details to private companies as this would be in breach of the data protection act, but i dare say dodgy dave will soon bring in some legislation to change this...
work 30 hours a week for your pittance dole
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Re: work 30 hours a week for your pittance dole
A tosh idea that will hurt the short-term unemployed (who really are looking for work), the million or so temps as well as the hard-working people on minimum wage.
Firstly, if you've a job on minimum wage and barely scrape by, relying on the little bits of overtime now and again then that overtime has now been flushed down the pan. Your employer will get free labour to cover the busy times which means you're screwed.
Then the people who've never fallen into a long-term job and gone from temp to temp jobs to get by will also find it much harder to even get short-term contracts when there are million people forced to work for free. So they're screwed.
Who benefits from this? If they're on the same money then their rent and water still needs paying. Their travel fares to and from work everyday needs to be paid for. Then there's the decrease in taxes paid in by those temps and low-earners when they work overtime to think about. By the time it's all worked out I can't see it saving anybody anything. The only people who might be better off is the employers who can take on bigger contracts and draft in slave-labour and increase their profit margins. So there you have it. The richest 10% will probably gain the most.
Again, it's divide and conquer. The rich get the average-paid, low-paid and unemployed to bicker and fight amongst themselves for the scraps to deflect attention away from what they're doing. Works every time.
Firstly, if you've a job on minimum wage and barely scrape by, relying on the little bits of overtime now and again then that overtime has now been flushed down the pan. Your employer will get free labour to cover the busy times which means you're screwed.
Then the people who've never fallen into a long-term job and gone from temp to temp jobs to get by will also find it much harder to even get short-term contracts when there are million people forced to work for free. So they're screwed.
Who benefits from this? If they're on the same money then their rent and water still needs paying. Their travel fares to and from work everyday needs to be paid for. Then there's the decrease in taxes paid in by those temps and low-earners when they work overtime to think about. By the time it's all worked out I can't see it saving anybody anything. The only people who might be better off is the employers who can take on bigger contracts and draft in slave-labour and increase their profit margins. So there you have it. The richest 10% will probably gain the most.
Again, it's divide and conquer. The rich get the average-paid, low-paid and unemployed to bicker and fight amongst themselves for the scraps to deflect attention away from what they're doing. Works every time.
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Re: work 30 hours a week for your pittance dole
You are wasting your time complaining about these incompetents who look only after themselves.
Thankfully I have not been out of work for 11 years now but I have experienced redundancy 3 times in the last 26 years. If I were to lose my job I am not entitled to one penny as my Army pension is greater than the pittance paid out as "Job Seekers Allowance".
My views on unentitled foriegners who have their begging bowls topped up frequently are unprintable. Since the age of 15 I have worked and paid taxes for what? So some unentitled grasping bastard can come here and milk our stupidly flawed system.
Thankfully I have not been out of work for 11 years now but I have experienced redundancy 3 times in the last 26 years. If I were to lose my job I am not entitled to one penny as my Army pension is greater than the pittance paid out as "Job Seekers Allowance".
My views on unentitled foriegners who have their begging bowls topped up frequently are unprintable. Since the age of 15 I have worked and paid taxes for what? So some unentitled grasping bastard can come here and milk our stupidly flawed system.
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Jimslip
1. No capitalist government wants full employment. This is generally viewed as a disaster.
2. All capitalist governments want to focus endlessly on benefit scroungers. They are an ideal target for distracting the gullible and the stupid from considering much, much, much bigger losses/costs to government income.
3. The biggest incentive to get people into work is to pay a basic living wage which provides a greater income than the pittance the unemployed get on benefits and which can help convince people that working provides a way of getting out the mire.
4. The greater drain on the government's purse are the benefit scrounging employers who rely on housing benefits, tax credits etc to stop their employees starving and boost company profits.
5. If the unemployed are generally viewed as scum by society, why should they play society's game?
6. THe unemployed already have a panoply of hurdles to jump in terms of interviews, websites viewed, CVs sent in, loss of benefits if an appointment is missed etc etc. etc.
7. The most intelligent thing that any British citizen can do is educate themselves to understand the forces that control their lives and pull the strings of capitalism.
8. Many people are totally unemployable. If you met the families that they have grown up in you will understand why. It is surprising that many such people can actually function at all.
Cheers
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2. All capitalist governments want to focus endlessly on benefit scroungers. They are an ideal target for distracting the gullible and the stupid from considering much, much, much bigger losses/costs to government income.
3. The biggest incentive to get people into work is to pay a basic living wage which provides a greater income than the pittance the unemployed get on benefits and which can help convince people that working provides a way of getting out the mire.
4. The greater drain on the government's purse are the benefit scrounging employers who rely on housing benefits, tax credits etc to stop their employees starving and boost company profits.
5. If the unemployed are generally viewed as scum by society, why should they play society's game?
6. THe unemployed already have a panoply of hurdles to jump in terms of interviews, websites viewed, CVs sent in, loss of benefits if an appointment is missed etc etc. etc.
7. The most intelligent thing that any British citizen can do is educate themselves to understand the forces that control their lives and pull the strings of capitalism.
8. Many people are totally unemployable. If you met the families that they have grown up in you will understand why. It is surprising that many such people can actually function at all.
Cheers
D