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Without wishing to steal Hollys thunder here I cant help but feel Harrys comment is irrelevant to this thread when he says

"I have noticed that a select number of people have appointed themselves as the "official" UK Porn Representatives and have made life hard for some people for numerous reasons"

Without naming names I have no idea who you are eluding to. Put it this way, if you see business as a race to success and the first person gets to the post then officially that person has erstablished the right to self appoint themselves to the positon they have earned.

I think there is far too much pc given to those who come in second when they clearly lost "Oh its not the winning its the taking part"

Fair enough. Then if people have aproblem the way the system works then maybe they should do something to change it by making it better then claiming that for themselves.

The adult industry has no real infrastructure and in theory no one is making anyhting hard for anyone in this industry.

The difference really lies in whether anyone is prepared to get off their lazy arse and make something of themselves because the way I see it (present company excluded) the ones who have bitched hardest and been more damaging with inflammatory comments were the ones who did the least to contribute.

Sorry, strike that. Did NOTHING

The likes of David Sullivan, Blue Bird or any other big company hasnt kept me from achieving what I set out to do.

With that in mind I find your comments erroneous. However i am open to debate if you can be more specific

If there's no real infrastructure how can anyone have a position in it?

Some people want there to be an infrastructure, just like some people want there to be a "first place".

Everyone else just wants to have some fun and make some money here and there, which is why there's no infrastructure and why, for them, that's not a bad thing. It's the whole point.

It's not about coming first or coming second, it's just about coming. !wink!

But I agree this is all something for another thread?

As for Holly's original point, if someone is being unpleasant then that's bad. Whoever they are and however successful they are, they're still being a jerk and anyone can disapprove of that.

If there's no real infrastructure how can anyone have a position in it?

Easy. Get a camera. Book a model. Spend some money and you're in business and you are your own boss.

Try to sell it though and thats where the real difficulty is ..Unless you have a core group of customers you sell to at the local pub of course but then ...thats illegal and you could get nicked for it.

The infrastructure we have in place is shaky at best and its treacherous waters to getting ripped off.

Wanna go to court? Sod that. no one takes you serious so its either sort it out with fists or like gents over a pint.

I much prefer the latter