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Hi Guys

Theres a lot of producers like me who even after 6 years are not recognised, our work is good enough to pirate by certain people but still were not welcomed into the small freemason click which sits supposedly call themselves the British porn industry. The R18 surge now is only the people who justly now can have their works seen at last so the real public can decide who or what they like for the first time without it being dominated by the same faces who say 'this is our industry'.
Things will change for the best with producers who are still living on old reputations as they will have to head to head with the newcomers & if they warrant their 'best' label the pubic will decide it & not them among themselves as is whats happing now.
Does best producer, film, actress or actor go on a accurect account of film sales or what a small number of people decide might be true in their eyes.
Officer Dribble your views are quite interesting but i & a lot of other new producers would find some your remarks unfair. My sales are healthy so i don't need to worry but for some new producers this attitude might hinder their work in a industry that at the moment needs all the support it can get, as pro producers act responsible & help newcomers instead of slatting them as they could oneday become the new 'goodfellas' of British porn.

Kim

'The twin towers was disaster and not something manufactured for the pleasure of nonces and beasts like those that you seem to be defending'

Comparing apples and pears. The twin towers is an apple, child porn is a pear.
The twin towers was manufactured. Someone had to think of piloting a plane into the towers. It wasn't manufactured for nonces.


part of your argument:
'in my view anyone who enjoys looking at child porn is aiding and abetting the actual abuser' and
'even if the viewer doesnt then go on to abuse a child he is still supporting the abuse of real kids in the images he looks at'


Let's do a thought experiment, let's change 'child porn' to crime.
So I rewrite your thoughts as:
''in my view anyone who enjoys looking at crime is aiding and abetting the actual criminal''
Does your argument still sound good? Somehow child porn has a special quality which other crimes don't. It causes people to do things that other crimes don't.

I read an article from a journalist about 'fetishization of images' which addresses these issues better that I - but I can't remember where I read it.

Maybe my mind is going - too much porn... open the pod bay door hal... daisy , daisy give me your answer do ...

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I wonder how much alcohol is involved in rape.'

'By looking at abused children you are supporting the abuse of children.
How does that work?'

Because they have to have been abused for you to 'enjoy' the image.

The awards are for anyone and everyone to attend, Yes black tie cocktail dresses etc. Red carpet at the Grand Ballroom 5 star Buffet as you would expect. The awards are all designed by the same designers as Venus/Brussels use, The look sensasional. I want one and I can't have one. But the rest are up for grabs. Some awards are voted for by the public, some by a pannel of BluePrint reviewers and staff, some by common sense.
All you need to do is get nominated by another proffessional. Read through them they are on www.plusexpo.com.
As for my eyes they have 26 years of looking at good & bad porn. I am probably the most un-biased person in the UK, I have held an RSL Broadcasting license from ITC, I was trained to goverment standards in photography, I have worked on and with some of the greatest producers in the world. My accreditation should not come under question I visit all major sex events in the world to promote the UK and its industry.
The awards will be as fair as I can make them but hey no-one if forcing anyone to agree with them, we all have an opinion I could do with a few more nominations tho, You don't get nominated you have no chance at all,

Jim (Phil McC)

Dear, dear. You do seem to have got a bit of a persecution complex Kim. Many of your posts do seem imbued with it's self pitying flavour. Now, come on didums, tell Uncle Dibbs who these reprobates are, these Philistines that have so callously overlooked your burgeoning talent? I?m sure I do not belong to this ?click? of porno Freemasons that you suggest have actively snubbed you. I only piped up because I felt guilty about not intervening on Terry?s behalf when all those disrespectful newbies were metaphorically putting the boot in him ? bet they wouldn?t be so disrespectful face to face, hey Tel?

Personally, I?m to bored with it all to actively snub anyone. It finally dawned on me a few weeks ago that as an individual I have no interest in what anyone is churning out nowadays and haven?t played a Brit video except in a professional capacity for the last couple of years. I have recent movies donated by my porno Goodfella pals sitting on my shelf, never been watched (sorry chaps, I will make the effort,?soon) and they?re the ones who?s material I used to like. So, Kim (and don?t take it the wrong way) I?m not bothered about your materiel either way. It may be good it may be bad. But I?m not the one to judge because I haven?t really liked anything since (and before) R18. To me it?s now all universally naff and boring and certainly wouldn?t be buying it I was a punter. So, don?t think that I was tilting exclusively at you or your material, I wasn?t.

You deem my remarks ?unfair? Pray, how? Isn?t it a fair assessment to suggest that many who have jumped on the porno bandwagon since R18 would not have done so if they thought that they might be arrested, persecuted by the media, feel the whole weight of The State bearing down on their shoulders, have their assets and chattels sized and possibly incarcerated? Isn?t it fair to suggest that if porn was made decidedly illegal they might ?bottle out? and go back to a safe boring life of meekly kowtowing to the state? Might the newbies then leave the market to those rough, tough, naughty chaps who have scant respect for the law? I recon that?s a pretty reasonable and objective analysis. I would be intrigued to hear what you would do in that situation Kim. Would you throw in the towel and call it a day, or would you carry on, stick two fingers up to the law and the State and ?do it your way??

You mention ?new producers.? Hmm, I've come to the conclusion that is the last thing the porn market needs. It just means that a finite pot of potential customer money will be divided into ever-smaller chunks. These chunks will inevitably become so small as not to benefit anyone. No one will be able to make a decent living, or, crucially, have money leftover to invest in quality products. What?s your opinion on this? Remember, there is only a finite pot of customer money out there.

As for acting ?responsibly,? acting to the contrary is one of the few indulgences left to a porno Goodfella in these tiresome times. Won?t you indulge me Kim? Won?t you indulge your local porno Peeler?


Officer D

'To me it?s now all universally naff and boring...'

exactly what are you doing here then?

Well Joe, I still make a few bob in this arena, and you have quoted me selectively here. The context in which I made that statement was where I was talking about current trends and output. I do retain an interest in the wider genre and I'm an active collector of classic American, Brit and Euro material. So there.

Officer Dibble.

I don't think punters actually give a shit who directs or conceives of the films we make.Likewise how many directors names can you recall who make programmes on normal TV stations. Presumably the BGAFD awards may bring you the recognition you think you deserve!
As a new contributer to this forum, I will be very curious to see who "wins" these awards, as a cynic I expect to see the same old names, the optimist in my hopes it will make awards to some new people.

By the way I'm not a new producer, just the quietest. (up till now)

Wrong David, they do, I get countless mails asking for the latest FT, I don't think a punter in the country does not know Ben, Omar, McC One Eyed, etc same as they all know the big named models. Product identification is paramount. I have had people send me cash for a volume that is not yet made because they know it will be as good as the last,
The only way to see who wins is to be there, funny as it seems you have had two nominations Dave so maybe you are one of the old names after all,
The ticket order line is set up this week and again it is limited so order early to get in. And I don't need quite complainers I need industry professionals with a voice.
"When you advertise with BluePrint you pay for a PR company not just an advert".

Phil McC