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Diggler69 wrote:


> No one has an accurate view of how torrenting effects the porn,
> music, film etc businesses it's an illegal activity so all
> claims to % and $ lost are purely guesswork to promote their
> argument.

I just did a quick google for CS5 torrent. The first hit brought up a site which lists the number of downloads for that torrent, which stands at 10357.

Thats possibly 10,000 copies of a ?500+ piece of software from just one torrent and one site.

The argument that Adobe haven't actually lost anything because those who download it just wouldn't buy it if that was the only way, therefore 10,000 downloads equals zero sales either way, just doesn't wash with me.

I remember back in the early days of video (when all the stuff was under the counter) I purchased many tapes down in Soho. I never really thought about it at the time, but looking back I doubt very much if any of the tapes were original. You did get stuff from Your Choice and the like through mail order but did the money I paid in the sex shops go straight into somebody's pocket or did it go to making new material ? I had some tapes that looked like they had possibly been made in some of the seedy flats above the shops so somebody must have been funding them.

There was a strange honour among people in ther porn game back in the day.

The piracy was done in a number of ways. Straight swap one for ones or above the usual price for an original that you could make multiple copies and this seemed a fair way to work.

Alot of the titles that went through those shops were copies that were sold on and had to be bought in sets. Not sure if all of it was above board but i do know that some producers were in on it in Europe.

Its a shame the same thing isnt done these days but it would be a lot more difficult withthe internet how it is today.

if anyhting its not just the internet to blame but also the fact people try to undercut each other that has devalued porn all round until some smart alec thought they would make a tube site and give it away for free

Then others decided to follow and now they are all trying to play catch up with the amount of bandwidth they are eating giving it away

Yourself and a few others excluded, the biz still has the highest percentage of
scumbags outside estate-agency or politics, so I think the comment will stand
scrutiny.
Of course, it's only the big boys who have the financial and legal resources to
chase up copyright infringement [especially in the US]- but in the end I think
they're pissing into the wind. The industry will adapt, as it's always done; just
don't ask me how, exactly !! All forms of publishing have been affected, as you
know- and at least you can take comfort from being in the same boat as
Beethoven and Dickens : -))

"There was a strange honour among people in ther porn game back in the day."

Maybe, but not where punters were concerned.... I cut my porn teeth in the days
of Old Soho, the Revuebar and early Sulivan, when it was all under-the-counter.
Maybe it's because of those rip-off merchants that I'm so cynical about today's
biz.....

90% of the vids I received in the 90s [lots from high-profile outfits still extant]
were copies.
What's changed?

and at least you can take comfort from being in the same boat as
Beethoven and Dickens : -))


B-but..they're dead! !happy! Gulp

1. the Porn industry will survive. It will change, but it will survive. Producers will suffer, performers will suffer less. You won't be able to set up a site and get as much money as you used too, instead it will move towards live stuff, where it's 1-many webcams or 1-1 chats. That's where the money is.

2. I used to be a member of a lot of sites, but when I started to get spam to the mail account I used, I looked into which information the sites I signed up with received. That's when I stopped signing up and paying. I don't trust the industry well enough to give them any personal information. Find a way to let me sign up without giving them my personal information, and I'll be back joining sites.

3. Which also is the reason why I'd never use torrents. Way too public, even if my ISP won't give out my information. But then there are alternatives to torrents.

Thanks for that Hugh

Always good to hear from the real man in the street. I agree with you that the new age is more interactive than it has ever been and may well be the way of the future.

Why watch all that fun when you can now be part of it. I suspected this a few years ago with the rise of the bukkake parties and sex orgies...also with this comes a rise of diseases but rather than get a tide of nay sayers disputing it being perfectly safe I do agree with what you say

If people are wondering where I get my information from I can only say from opbservation alone the rise of stds and the numerous shut downs not just here but in europe and the US that I have known about in recent years indicates the rapid expansion of the adult business into other areas, parties, escorting etc

I'm not just talking about hardcore models, but also any kind of adult models.

How many hardcore models do only paid published work? How many also do other things like escorting or do non published h/c work?

How many adult non hardcore models don't work with private collectors and amateur phtographers?

How many non adult models do adult work as long as it's not published?

The adult model is going need the producer as much as the writer or the musician needs a producer, editor, etc.

She might hire a photographer to take photos or video of her and then use that as free promotion for her more exclusive work, be it 1-1 cams, letting regular people take photos/video of/with her, escorting, etc. But the photographer will get paid for his time, he won't get a share of the models other work.

So I can see how porn producers would see this as a dark future, but for the model/actress it's not, and neither is it for the consumer.