O/T very disturbing What next?

[webmasterjms@coolpiranha.com]

As I understand it, pornography is legally described as 'that which depraves or corrupts' Now as an adult webmaster, I dont think seeing a couple (or group!) banging away like their lives depended on either depraved or likely to corrupt me and it looks like the courts agree these days.

But this kind of sick shit? Now that's pornography. That and those video tapes of executions, autopsies and related dog vomit.

They really should just take this guy to one side, nail his face to a table and then let Bubba from Cell Block H fuck the living shit out of him with a chair leg.

I know. I'm a bleeding heart liberal when it comes to crime.

[judas]

there should be more like you

[Officer Dibble.]

So, er, what is it you're trying to say Joe?

"If I don't actively say it is sick then I condone it - right?"

Say what's sick?

"Was September the 11th the sickest thing on TV?"

How do you define sickest? Personally, I was riveted to the TV the whole afternoon and evening. The things I find most distasteful and abhorrent on TV at the moment are 'Big Bruver' Pop Stars, Pop Tarts, Academy Popstars, Lairier Pop Tarts or anything similar. Subjecting anyone with even half a brain to that kind of tripe is one of the wickedest things I could conceive of.

"I just find it interesting how some humans can find non-human animals more emotive."

Indeed. Maybe it's because some of us recognise that none of us are really innocent, we all have touches of cruelty, greed, stupidity and vanity in us somewhere and hey, all those goody goody kiddie winkies are going to grow up to do many of the same sort of shitty things that we all do to each other. So it?s hard to be 100% sympathetic where people are concerned. But the little white rabbit, the guinea pig and the little goat family truly are devoid of any blame.

Officer Dibble.

[Officer Dibble.]

Oh, come, come Vila. So you've never heard of the Roman's and how they liked to spend Saturday afternoon? You've never heard of the thousands of ordinary citizens who used to flock to Tyburn and the Bastille to see exciting hangings and beheadings. Haven't you heard of how the Gestapo and SS gleefully went about their business? Have you never heard of the antics of 'Vlad The Impaler? and Genghis Khan? Well, maybe that was before your time, we can't all boast the living memory of Marcus Allen - Ah, 'tis often I have sat mouth agape on Marcus's celebrated settee as he regaled my with tales of his boyhood in Old London - The hangings at Tyburn. Nelson?s victory at Trafalgar. Dick Turpin's marathon dash from London to York. Or was it the other way round? Anyhow, I digress.

The point is you shouldn't profess to be unaware of how thin the veneer of civilization really is. Maybe you don?t understand and have never even felt the ghost of these dark appetites, but you should surely be aware that they certainly do exist in many people. The wilful cruelties and atrocities that ordinary Yugoslavians perpetrated on each other within the past decade should leave you in no doubt.

Officer Dibble.

[magoo]

I must say Dibble you have gone up 100% in my estimation. When I was a kid there was a park with a pets corner where goats, sheep, peacocks and geese were kept for the delight of the local rate payers and thier kids (all kids love animals except perhaps Joe King as a boy - assuming his Vulkan logic can accept such emotive topics). Well one day when I asked my mother if we could go to Pets Corner she started to cry and made some excuse. She told me years later that the reason she couldnt take me that day was that the local morons had broken in the previous evening and slit the goats throats and stamped the geese etc to death. I suggest that that sort of thing damaged a few children when they found out what happened just like the sick fuckers who impaled our old school cat on the playground railings for all the kids to see.

But back to the original point. I would cheerfully top the makers of such videos and lets not forget the sick slut who stamped on the kitten. Or is she excused from blame due to her being a woman? I would stick her up against the wall along with the producer(s) and slot thelot of them. Sick fuckers.

However Dibble I disagree about the plight of the civilians in Iraq. They cant topple Saddam because 10 years of US sanctions have left them crippled and powerless. The military thinks a war with Iraq is pointless and a waste of money and a waste of British soldiers lives but unfortunately Tony does what George says and if that means British lads have to die in a war that is not our business then who are we to complain. Fuck this makes me angry. Why cant the largest superpower (USA) sort thier own problems out without stupid Blair dragging our lads into it. No other country is following Bush only us.

[woodgnome]

why? because i don't feel like waking up in the morning and having to wade through another couple of dozen posts, extolling the killing and maiming of others in the name of justice.

if anyone finds this decision objectionable, go and find a forum that is not dedicated to the art of bonking.

[Officer Dibble]

Yes magoo, that's a similarly distressing story to the ones I alluded to. Horrible.

I too couldn't work out where Joe was going with his post - seems like he just committed some random disjointed thoughts on the general topic of cruelty to cyberspace.

I beg to differ on the subject of Saddam. He's not a nice chap; he's tortured and murdered his political opponents and anyone who took an opposite view to him. He's murdered whole sections of Iraqi society (the Kurds) he's murdered many of the neighbouring countries citizens (like in Kuwait) and he's even murdered members of his own family he and his henchmen will have committed untold numbers of atrocities against his own citizens over the years - this alone is reason enough to kick him out. Or should we as citizens of the world stand by dithering or shrug our shoulders and say" some of the lads might get hurt" or "It's none of our business" like, to our shame, we did in Bosnia.

But that's not the main reason I'd kick his ass. I'd kick his ass because he has thrummed his nose at us for the past ten years. Laughing up his sleeve as he twats the old weapons inspectors about. His ass has got to be kicked to wipe that smirk off his face and show him and the rest of the world that we are not to be fucked with.

As for America and George Dubya. Of course they don't need us to get rid of Saddam. They?re more than capable of pounding Iraq to dust on their own, we're just along because America needs a pal to give their action some sort of legitimacy - so they can say "Hey, look it?s not just us who want to get rid of Saddam." So, they expect their closest pal in the world (Britain) to be there for them in there hour of need. Even though we may not be as 'up for it' as the yanks like any good pal we put our selves out for them when necessary. And let's not talk any-ball bag about America, it is massively powerful, both financially and militarily, the country that sits at America's right hand will be sitting pretty. Tony and anyone with any common know very well which side their bread is buttered on.

Officer Dibble.

P.S. You may be gratified to learn that between these posts I?m adding content to the new VA catalogue. Wheyhey!

[magoo]

I understand WG but there was a point I wished to make to Dibble in semi-agreement but he has no email addy for me to do it via. So in effect I am unable to reply.

Just to set the record straight on my behalf and without wanting to encourage any further debate on O/T subjects I should like to point out to the Officer that I understand Saddam is an evil dictator who killed thousands of his own people (Kurds). Where were we then Dibble? Did the USA care when Saddam gassed those Kurds? NO!
Turkey is still persecuting and killing Kurds but thats not mentioned because they might be needed for air bases in an attack. Similar double standards surround our view of Saudi who also kill and torture thier own people.

I like a clever debate Dibble so if you want email me and lets save poor old Woodgnome the hassle of trying to be both a moderator and a UN Peacekeeper.

[vila]

I didn't say I'd never heard of any of those things. I said I don't UNDERSTAND that thses sickos apparently get.

Sorry, Woodgnome, but I think I was entitled to reply.

[vila]

I didn't say I'd never heard of any of those things. I said I don't UNDERSTAND the buzz that these sickos apparently get.

Apologies again to Woodgnome.