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Mike, we all have to live within certain rules. It would be great if human beings were like robots, then we could have a totally 'free society'. Alas we are unpredictable things. Giving people total freedom would cauze chaos. The Western world isn't 'free', we're just 'more free' than most eastern countries.

Q: Do you know the long term side affects of most illegal drugs?

A: Paranoia!

Sam,
I am really paranoid about what is happening in this country! You are right!
People like you are robotic clones because they do not think about what is wrong or right but delegate that responsibility to the state.

Illegal is synonymous with wrong ,in your mind, and you want to be a respectable law abiding member of society. You believe the propaganda about substances that the state does not want anyone to experiment with. Why do you think that the most perniciously addictive and socially destructive substance alcohol is so free available and adverised everywhere? Alcohol is a downer whereas cannabis results in expanded conciousness. The state does not want people to experience enlightenment about the human condition but to become passive consumers.

These psycho-active substances are our birthright and part of our folklore. It is our right to consume every plant that grows upon the Earth. You generalise by using the term "drugs" as if all these different substances drug and send you to sleep whereas they all have different effects.

You don't know the effects of any of these substances and you will go through your life never experiencing a different state of mind. The only trip you will have is the death trip; that is if a doctor does not stop you you having even that: the unreeling of your life before your eyes.

My body is sovereign state and mine alone to decide what I consume.


Mike freeman.

Mike,

How do you know I want to be a law abiding citizen? I don't agree with every law in the land, and I have my own views!!!

Here's a few ideas for ya to digest & think about.

Though legalising many drugs will take dealers off the streets, what will these dealers then do for money? Go to college and get an education to become teachers & doctors? I doubt it.

Legalising drugs may cut down their use as it's 'less cool' to take something legal when you're a insecure teenager, right? Following me upto now?

Ok so we've got loadsa dealers out of work & no money. We've got loadsa kids wanting to take something they're not allowed to do, cos thats the way kids are. Can you see we're this is headed?

Yes Mikey boy, the old dealers will just find the 'next big buzz', promising you 'bigger highs' than good ole cannabis, E's & charlie! These drugs will blow your socks off and if you join in with the revolution then you're so coooooool!

So in the long run, legalising the drugs of today will just produce 'harder', 'deadlier' drugs for tomorrow.

It's marvellous how quickly and clearly I see this 'theory' of mine! It's almost a dead cert to happen for real, if we did start to legalise drugs.

How I thought of such an obvious 'educated' scenario without a few toxins in my blood stream is beyond me! Robot that I am !wink!

Sam,
Legalising psychoactive substances will deprive the criminals of their income and prevent them corrupting policeofficers with huge sums of money. T.he problem is prohibition and the war on our children carried out by the police state we now live in.

The responsibility of the state is to educate the people about the effects and any threats to health substances pose.

This would empty out our prisons and the pockets of the drugs barons.
Mike Freeman

Like I said Mike,

Depriving drug dealers their money -by legalising the drugs of today- will only move dealers to concoct different chemicals, making stronger, more powerful drugs to sell.

Basically if someone isn't satisfied with a few drinks down the local, and can't get through life without disposing all sorts of chemicals into their body then thats a problem only they have to deal with, not society.

Why on earth should 'normal', 'intelligent' youngsters have to have their education spoilt by a few 'druggie tossers?' What are your thoughts on this? If we can't have drug testing within schools, do we just segregate the 'druggies' from the rest of class? Wichever option we choose, we cannot allow a 'insecure' minority spoil things for the majority of children.

In a previous post you campaigned to 'protect children from religion', -which is debatable- yet you seem unconcerned with our childrens 'education' and 'health'. Right or wrong, I think you have gotten all your priorities wrong.

What do you think of this statement?

'YOU CANNOT EDUCATE CHILDREN ON DRUG USE WHEN THEY'RE COMING TO SCHOOL 'ALREADY HIGH!!!' (let alone other subjects!)

Big Ears Pix wrote:

> In the good old days if I turned up for work and it appeared to
> my boss that I was under the influence of drink or drugs he
> would sack me without any proof.

Crap - that would be illegal.

> Now in these bad new days of
> random testing he can't do that until a test proves him
> correct, not that I would be sacked. I would now be sent to the
> company doctor for counselling but that's the modern nanny
> state for you.

You're confused - how is a private French company part of the nanny state?

Ah Mike, but Prozac is patented by a drug company and therefore makes a profit for shareholders. This makes it a "good" drug.

On the other hand, weed has been used for 6,000 years and isn't patented by anyone. It's therefore unprofitable as a painkiller/stress reliever so it's a "bad" drug.

Sam Slater wrote:

> Mike, we all have to live within certain rules. It would be
> great if human beings were like robots, then we could have a
> totally 'free society'. Alas we are unpredictable things.
> Giving people total freedom would cauze chaos.

Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and Tony Blair would agree with you 100%

Hi Sam,

The most socially destructive substance abuse is alcohol. You don't comment on this? The dealers already have the most dangerous chemicals to sell but the legal drugs like Prozac for children are worse!
Mike Freeman

eroticartist wrote:

> Hi Sam,
>
> The most socially destructive substance abuse is alcohol.

Actually Mike, alcohol competes with another mass-market drug: Sugar. It's addictive, caused diabetes and other health problems, kills thousands of people each year and is marketed at children! It's a recreational drug and has no medicinal uses (unlike weed for example). But Tate & Lyle is a powerful global organisation with friends in high places.