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warren zevon rip wrote:

> planeterotica wrote:
>
> > Class =Racism
>
> In what sense?
>
> And, do you think "class" means anything today? What "class "
> are you, and why do you think so?

planeterotica wrote:

In a sense that if you think that you maybe middle class and that makes you better than working class then in the same concept then one race could think they are better than another race, and i have noticed that no one has stated that they are of the ruling class !swear!

warren zevon rip wrote:

> planeterotica wrote:
>
> > In a sense that if you think that you maybe middle class and
> > that makes you better than working class then in the same
> > concept then one race could think they are better than
> another
> > race, and i have noticed that no one has stated that they are
> > of the ruling class
>
> Not sure I understand this, Graham, sorry! I am neither proud
> or embarrassed to be "middle class" (if we must use such
> meaningless descriptors) - it had little to do with me! Class
> cannot equal race, because people can change class but cannot
> change race.
>
> Why not just answer my original post - do you think there is a
> class system and if so, how does it work? And what class are
> you, and why do you think so.
>
> I have been very open about myself, it would be interesting to
> see what you care to share with the board.

planeterotica wrote:

Your original post is not short on words Warren but here goes, as for class and you being a school teacher had they had both been in your same class at the same time Adolf Hitler would have been top every time and Churchill would have been standing in the corner whith the dunces hat on !laugh!but who lived into his 90s and which of those two didnt didnt, and as for race i was very fast in the 100 yards until it went metric and then i slowed up and lost just at the finish !happy!

Well, that cleared it up, Graham!

There are only 2 classes, working class & gentry. Middle class is just a term for wannabes who think they are beter than anyone else & never actually get there.

Who are the middle classes? Well, they're the bureaucrats, the professionals, the intellectuals, etc. There is no precise definition ? there are many viewpoints. But what we can say is that since Mrs. T?s economic emancipation of the working classes the middle classes can no longer simply be defined by money or property. Instead we can point to their distinctive culture, manners, values, education, aspirations (world peace) and penchant for social concern ? quite different to those of working class folk. Though class divisions are much more blurred nowadays, if you meet someone and they start wringing their hands over some PC ?isuoo?, then it?s a pretty safe bet to label them middleclass. The middle classes themselves know who they are - hence their flocking together with other liked minded people in bohemian areas. Areas with delis, ethnic art galleries, and quaint little shops selling Peruvian panpipes, free trade lama steaks, and sustainable muesli bowls.

What class am I? Well, I would have thought I?d talked about myself more than enough over the years for you to get a really good handle on me and peg me down. But I?ll spell it out, if you like ? I?m ?geezer class?. Yes, I'm a member of the aspirational, entrepreneurial, working classes who are not avers to cutting a corner or three. My immediate aspirations are typically shallow - a bigger house in the country (far from the maddening crowd). An expanded stable of tasty motors and the economic security and respect that success in business brings. I?m fairy content at the moment mind, as I already have a reasonable carry on.

I guess you could also say I?m socially concerned, and fear for the future ? though my fears and solutions are markedly different to those of your average middleclass Guardian reader.




Officer Dibble

Well, thank God for that. I was beginning to fear that the only other none PC middleclass person was Jeremy Clarkson.





Officer Dibble

then that makes me gentry! fantastic news! Here that everyone i'm a goddam aristocrat! Or the idle rich as my friend calls me. Kim i'm not being sarcy, you made my day!

But at least this time we can have another laugh at his expense as we can tick off more entries in our "big daddy i spy book of nobodies".

"pathological need to express he exsists to anyone"

"pathological need to consider themself superior"

"Is willing to use smallest of ponds to feel like biggest fish"

"Has appeared that have all they have done during their working life is the most mundane and average of jobs inspite of more advantages than others"

I consider looking at his threads/replies like rubber necking at traffic accidents.