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A nicely thought out, and thorough post Mr Dibble. I agree totally with your thought's on Racism. What you have to understand is that most people whom scream 'racism' at the first opportunity are just trying to come across all 'modern' & 'cosmopolitan'. These same people would never consider buying a '2up2down' terraced house in Bradford, and the only ethnic person they ever happen to conversate with is their quiant little doctor with his funny little turban and cute accent.

I guess it's just the same old story the world over. A few bad terrorists give muslim people a bad name. A few 'real racist bigots give the ethnic communities an excuse to be, just about, totally immune from any critisism whatsoever.

As a 30 year old, working class 'white' male, I personally feel unable to accuse anyone of a different colour to me, of any wrong doing without feeling guilt. Lots of friends feel the same, and this makes people frustrated and angry. Parties like the BNP prey and peoples anger to recruit and steal votes.

I kinda dissagree on the general working class'es aspirations in life. While everyone working class does want a slightly bigger house, 2 new beamers in the drive and a little more cash to splash. People naturally take circumstance for granted and will always aspire for more. It's hard to imagine, but it won't make them happier.

150 years ago life expectency was not much above 45 years of age. The average person worked 16 hours a day doing brackbreaking work and still wasn't sure he could feed his family every day of the week. There was a good chance of him burying a few of his kids due to disease, before they reached adulthood aswell. They were much happier than we are today though. Even though life expectency has nearly doubled, we hardly ever worry about disease affecting our children (even if they did contract anything serious, theres a very good chance they'd survive) and we can feed our family everyday, 3 times a day, without working we complain about the most trivial of things.

Your ideas would certainly improve life of the average Joe, but only superficially.

You surpass yourself Dribbler. All that verbiage just to say "I hate the middle class".
And I'll anticipate your response: negative but what's to debate?

Mart

"The Likes of Us: A Biography of the White Working Class" by Michael Collins

Why thank you, mart. All compliments, endorsements, gratuities and pledges of support are gratefully received - even those as ungraciously bestowed as yours.


Officer Dibble

"A nicely thought out, and thorough post Mr Dibble."

Cheers, Sam. And a well considered response, if I may say so. I agree about all those modern, cosmopolitan, young things. They don?t know jack. And hey, (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) they?re all a bit ?metrosexual? if you ask me.

Unlike you, though, I don?t feel any deep-seated inhibitions about highlighting the negative aspects and shortcomings of the ethnic minorities ? it?s the duty of all rational even-handed folks to do so. However, one must be sensitive and tactful so as not to fuel the irrational prejudices of true bigots (a comparatively rare species nowadays).

Regarding wonga. It?s true that it does not guarantee happiness, but of course it?s much more agreeable to be rich and miserable than skint and miserable. I?m afraid it?s man?s destiny to never truly be satisfied with anything ? he always has to strive for more. He?s hard wired that way ? it?s simply the socio-biological mechanism that ensures he carves out his niche, propagates, progresses, and doesn?t go into decline.


Officer Dibble

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Officer Dibble

Cheers for the response.

Mr Dibble wrote:

[quote]It?s true that it does not guarantee happiness, but of course it?s much more agreeable to be rich and miserable than skint and miserable.[/quote]

I missed that on my post! Tis true! However..............as soon as you give a foundry worker ?50,000 a year instead of ?20,000 then the plumber wants ?300 to fix the drain instaed of ?100. A pint then costs ?12 instead of ?3.50, and you put your dvd's up from a tenner to ?35 each !wink! (I'm not even gonna go into train fares, petrol & taxes!).

I used to have this arguement with mi dad when I were 14. He told me that school was a loada bollox n gave me a clip round the ear. He still won't 'av it' you know............

Ps, whats a chav?

Oh, so we have another one with a hatred of the "Middle class" or is this just a term of abuse for anyone you don't agree with?
You really do need to seek professional help, this hang-up is obviously deep-seated.
Maybe you've failed some job interviews and look to place the blame elsewhere than on your own short comings.
Now there's a thought....You had a unhappy relationship with a posh bird who wasn't satisfied by your short cummings.....lol

Mart

"I missed that on my post! Tis true! However..............as soon as you give a foundry worker ?50,000 a year instead of ?20,000 then the plumber wants ?300 to fix the drain instead of ?100. A pint then costs ?12 instead of ?3.50,"

Ah, now there's the rub. Not everyone can be rich. But, then again, if everyone were rich it wouldn't be half as much fun.


?Ps, whats a chav??

It?s all explained here ?



Officer Dibble