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"I am working class and proud of it."

"Working class"? I'm sorry but I just don't buy that, colonel. Simply saying that you are of this class or that does not make it so. It's very common for middleclass lads to try and align themselves with the proletariat to give themselves some street cred and lend a bit of legitimacy to their anti Tory sentiments - as I've already alluded to elsewhere in this thread. So tell us more about yourself, your views and your aspirations. What type of education did you have - qualifications etc? What jobs have you done? What jobs did your parents do? What are your interests and hobbies? What are your hopes for the future? We can them make our own judgments as to your social position - or at least get an idea of where you're coming from.



Officer Dibble

?I would love to see you write a slightly clearer breakdown of the class system as you see it - is "geezer class" a sub-class of working class or middle class, for instance - or does it lie between the two??

Maybe I will at some point. But for now I?ll just say that I see the working classes subdivided up into three distinct groups ?

1) The underclass ? stupid, oafish, benefit claiming, unintelligent mongs. No interest in politics or voting - or anything else for that matter. They are a social and financial drain on our society and the awkward question of the day is what to do with them ? can?t kill ?em. So what?s the answer?

2) The respectable working class ? the salt of the earth. They don?t cause any trouble on their estate (either Barrett or council) because they've bought their own gaff and now they have a stake in society, an investment to look after. They?re the craftsmen and tradesmen. They?re not overly ambitions, they?re pretty much satisfied with their lot. So long as they can afford a Barrett house, a modest new motor and a couple of weeks in Corfu, they?re sorted. Their parents voted Labour, they voted for Mrs. T. These are the voters David Cameron needs to win back if he is going to make it to number 10. However, they have been toying with the BNP of late since the Labour council has been letting chavs, mongs and knife wielding ?gangstas? drag the estate down, and also housing Somalian asylum seekers in the empty properties that were once reserved for young indigenous couples. If anyone complains they are threatened with State prosecution. That their taxes are taken to fund all this iniquity is just about the last straw.

3) Then there?s the ?Geezers? ? the go for it, aspirational, entrepreneurial working class. Which in addition to the get rich quick wide boys, Jack the lads and bright sparks, also encompasses the hardworking, big thinking, proprietors of small businesses. They all have one thing in common ? they want a slice of the good life and the freedom, respect, and security that money and property brings. Mrs. T is their idol; she set them free of proletarian drudgery and showed the way ahead. Of course they vote Tory and despise the middleclass socialists, since it is they who would drag them back to the dark age of grey uniformity, subservience, and meager (if any) pleasures.




Officer Dibble

I was only a kid, but I never came across any working class families that wouldn't have cheered at Mrs T being impaled on a stake and set alight.

My Dad worked for 25 years in a steelworks and 25 years in a chemical works- and has the scars to prove it.

Blue-collar jobs both.

Yes, under Thatcher I felt that the north/south divide was much more defined than what it is now.

There is very little of a north-south divide now, although I have no doubt that one would appear with a Tory government, and the Scots would duly vote for independence.

I'm not arguing the point with you. In 1979 I was 2 years old. I just said I 'felt' the divide was more defined than what it is now, and since Labour got into power. The reasons for it we can agree on, but maybe it proves the point to Mr Dibble that class is stupid, since a working class family in Cambridge can be poles apart, politically, than a working class family from Wigan.