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Well the internet is not new and 15 odd years on people are still making movies, porn, and music



Yep. of course they will but the advances will be minimal based on expected returns and that is precisely part of the problem going on right now.

Lots of companies have gone under because of the recession but this can also be included as well

I would have thought from your comments on this thread that you would have known all this.

Companies are not paying as much anymore and hence why the costs of production has taken a niose dive. A lot more gonzo is being produced because it is cheaper as everyone is looking to cut corners on costs, plus the model fees have ben reduced. These are all knock on effects of the free porn versus paid.

If you want proof then its all around you in producers grumbling and its even worse in Europe as one industry luminary toldme that some are acting like its the end of the world. I am not obligated to name names by discussing other peoiples business but I can say this..

Lok onyoutube and see the footage with youtubes logo emblazone acroos it with the option to join the site and you will have your answer that some producers are trying this already.

I am one of them and have always offered previews on my sites as like you, i wouldnt bother with any site that didnt give me a glimpse what to expect


"Something tells me that one or two test cases will not alter the habits of 100 million + people"

No. But a few high profile media ones may be enough to make a lot of people hesitant. Its like punching the biggest bully in the nose and watching all his mates jump back. The same rule applies here.

It seems the ACS Law thing has got a lot of peoples attention. I wonder how many people who dont come on forums like this have made a decision to not download porn for feear of their information being leaked and the possibility of not just losing their jobs but also their marriages and associations?

Sure we know it doesnt mean shit but there are plenty uninformed people who probably just dont want to chance it now it has made headlines.

Thats how it works. If 20 million people stopped and 10 million carried on it is still a result achieved and I think thats why it made headlines. So yeah it might cost ACS law a million and ahalf in fines but how much are they making (if any) because of that stunt?

Probably nothing but who knows. If they are really that dodgy then they can probably afford it.

If and when the internet jams up JJ?

I'm still waiting for this thing called the grid to appear to take over the internet as we know it. Its supposed to be way faster than the internet in general and is really the information superhighway by its estimation to be 10 times bigger than the internet and is supposed ot be coming in a matter of years from when I heard about it 5 or 6 years ago

If the banks keep crashing and the worlds governments keep having to bail out the banks maybe money might be obsolete in the future and maybe the internet will be the last great thing for free entertainment

http://cyberlaw.org.uk/2010/09/29/hustl ... ent-users/

Oh and the guy taking up the case previously won for copyright infringement against Lucasfilm so this should be interesting. Not porn of course but the same rules apply

It was won in a british high court too which makes it extra relevant

"making and selling pirated Star Wars stormtrooper helmets and other costume replicas."

"The court held that Ainsworth infringed Lucasfilm's rights when he reproduced the stormtrooper helmet replicas and sold them under a false claim that he had created the designs"

And the relevance to filesharers freely swapping digital material over the internet who make no false claims to be the creator ?

"I'm still waiting for this thing called the grid to appear to take over the internet as we know it. Its supposed to be way faster than the internet in general and is really the information superhighway by its estimation to be 10 times bigger than the internet"

The Grid is simply Fibre optic cable we have that already i worked for BT in the 70's and the technology was around then for telecom networks, sadly the only countries with the foresight and the cash to implement it in a big way are Japan & South Korea

It won't take over the internet or make it any bigger it's just a faster medium to transmit data

And the relevance to filesharers freely swapping digital material over the internet who make no false claims to be the creator ?

My point is the guy won that case therefore it would be interesting to see the outcome with taking these torrenters to court for Hustler

Was he tracked down and identified by an IP address?

No idea.

Does it make a difference? He is still charged with the same thing and thats how people will see it

"Does it make a difference? He is still charged with the same thing and thats how people will see it"

I am not legally qualified but yes i think it does make a difference, personally i think this case would have no legal bearing on a filesharer being taken to court and regardless of how i or people see it it's the letter of the law that counts.

This guy "went into business manufacturing them" "and sold them under a false claim that he had created the designs"

People who fileshare are not in a business they don't financially gain from someone elses copyrighted material. Generally speaking they identify material in a way which credits the owner they don't claim it as their own

Presumably this guy had either a shop, a website, advertized "his" products somewhere or maybe even had a stall at starwars conventions

So it would have been incredibly easy to identify him

Don't you guys get it filesharing is by it's nature anonymous an IP address does not identify a person even after forensically examining a PC and proving it does have pirated material on it how the hell are you going to prove who was sitting at the keyboard and initiated the download

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/ ... 708810.ece

http://www.lucasfilm.com/press/news/news20080731.html