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LFP Internet Group (originally Larry Flynt Publications) filed their copyright complaint against the unnamed defendants for sharing the adult film

This is my point "unamed defendants"

If you cannot identify someone who has stolen something then my friend you are p*****g in the wind !deadhorse!

Within a few weeks of my site going live, a members details were on a password site. Some people are keen to get things for free.

If people want to view half decent videos/pictures then it means the producers have to spend money and put in alot of time and thought. Models need to make a living. Producers need money to continue making decent content and pay the models.

I love what I do and anybody who thinks filesharing content from my site is ok or is something to be looked into for marketing is wrong imo.

There are cheap trial memberships on some sites - sample galleries on all. That's how you try before you buy or decide to purchase a monthly subscription.

Seems fair to me.

Ripping a site you don't own - haven't put any work, money or time into - then sharing it with others definitely isn't right.

It takes a hell of a lot of work to get a site established - why should anyone have it for free when money's needed by everyone involved?

I titally understand where you are coming from Secretease but we are living in selfish times where what you think has no vlaue on those who want it for free and why i feel that ACS Law while going about it wrong were still taking action (Yes Scott- ill thought out as it may be) over inaction

Should those who have their copyright infringed be aloowed to get the ball rolling and learn to do this in a much miore effective manner ort should they just lie down and accept it because thats the feeling I am getting from some of these posts.

If these torrent sites are so wild an dout of control how come they are not riddled with child porn and other little nasties that could get you nicked?

If the people behind them have a way of controlling what links end up on there then surely they can remove stuff that does flout copyright ownership and they have been known to remove links by request as well

That's why I think it needs to be hammered home to people who use the torrent and other fileshare sites that this is how the world works.

It appears to be working in the music biz. I see comments on youtube along the lines of "can't find the song on any torrent sites to download" are followed by "buy it you idiot" or similar.

Definitely shouldn't lie down and accept it - anybody who does needs a serious kick up the arse and to wake up imo. Totally agree about the owners keeping an eye on what's on their sites already.

I totally agree Secretease and Im glad Im not alone on this as it seems other producers dont want to input on this thread probbaly because they dont want to alienate the porn fans

But to me the real porn fans are the ones who pay for it. They are the ones who support the movement to make more and probably some torrenters too who may just be sampling for preview a complete scene or movie who go onto either buy it or sign up

Its a tough one but I dont think torrenting is the evil it is made out to be and people need to stop thinking its ok that just because they alone do it doesntmake a diference when another 100,000 are doing it thinking the same thing

Cant we make like Rodney King and "all get along?" I would prefer no one suffer the ugliness of embarrassment but as you said, a firm stance has been taken, right or wrong in getting the ball moving and someone always ends up a casualty in war.

First it was the accused torrenters and now its ACS Law.

Whose next?

You have my sympathy not only do you have to protect your site against hackers but you have to spend the extra time, effort and money monitoring genuine members IP addresses for any anomilies which indicate multiple use. But having said that i have seen warnings on sites about sharing passwords and the consequences so presumably it's just an other precaution one has to take
I fully understand your choice not to use filesharing for marketing purposes but don't understand why you think the idea of using it is wrong, there's nothing illegal in principle with filesharing

Oh dear O.E.J i do seem to disagree with you rather a lot but be assured it's nothing personal and afterall we are just adults involved in a discussion , exchanging ideas, it's not personal !cool!
"selfish times"
I don't think people have ever totally ignored an opportunity to cheat and steal from one another it's human nature sadly

Yes a simple and effective way to combat piracy would be great but given that this fight is over a decade old and affects industries whose yearly turnovers are in the multi multi billion dollar bracket don't you think someone would have "cashed in" on that gap in the market
There is no simply effective defense against piracy that's the problem!

"If these torrent sites are so wild an dout of control how come they are not riddled with child porn and other little nasties that could get you nicked?"

If you look at TPB people are encouraged to report any instance of this to the authorities

Sadly from your perspective and all copyright owners TPB is proud the be the biggest tracker of copyrighted material on the planet
That is their stated goal and ethos!

"If the people behind them have a way of controlling what links end up on there then surely they can remove stuff that does flout copyright ownership and they have been known to remove links by request as well"

As i have said before the only way to control what appears on a website is to have some sort of legal team reviewing every single submission before allowing it to be published

So no more facebook, Twitter, youtube etc and presumably even forums like this would dissappear as well

You have noticed that when you reply here your message appears straight away well that would be a thing of the past as would be this forum

"Its a tough one but I dont think torrenting is the evil it is made out to be and people need to stop thinking its ok that just because they alone do it doesntmake a diference when another 100,000 are doing it thinking the same thing"

Yes we agree on someting !happy!!shocked!

But for me not a tough one

You can use electricity to power a life support machine and keep someone alive or you can attach electrodes to someone's nackers and torture them

Filesharing is like any other perfectly legal, legitimate tool, or technology that humans invent someone somewhere will always find a malicious use for it
That is our nature sadly

Thats ok Diggler. i dont take your disagreements personally. My friends and family disagree with me all the time. I think its normal and healthy.

Obviously there are areas on this you know more than me and other areas I will doscount because I know from experience.

In short its all good !happy!

I believe and still find that when i think iknow a lot about something and find out you might not know as much as you thought you did and some peoples posts on here still enlighten me.

Jolly good !thumbsup!

Well in the interests of seeing if i can provoke anyone else to join this debate,rather odd if the industry is doomed that people are so quiet

Here's my prediction of what may well come to pass if porn producers in particular continue this "scattergun" approach of hiring less than top notch legal firms to randomly threaten 1000's of people based on IP addresses garnered from torrent tracking in the hope of recouping lost profits and scaring off filesharers.
First of all a few people will khak their pants and stop torrenting which is good but an indeterminate no of people will think X thousand people threatened but hey i'm one out of x million people doing this so pretty good odds no problems for me. Anybody that thinks a bit deeper will no doubt think oh yeah how are you going to prove that from an IP addr
But sooner or later one of these threats will land on the wrong doorstep and this could be someone rich and of high social status or simply some old W.I attending biddy who is not going to take a slur like this lying down.
Now it doesn't matter if it's someone indepedently wealthy or it's someone enlisting the aid of sympathetic consumer watchdogs and legal experts
Here is how i see it panning out they employ a creditable and respected expert in computer forensics who will be able to testify that there is no evidence whatsoever of the person dowmloading the alleged material at the time specified by the complainant. With this information their legal advisors will contact the people accusing them asking them to cease and desist this harrasment as this constitutes libel/defamation of charachter etc. Now if they are silly enough to continue sending threatening letters or even take them to court then it's quite likely they will lose, suffer high financial penalties and quite likely drop this line of business.Questions might even be asked in Parliament about these methods who knows maybe laws will be passed. And where will the porn industry be at the end of all this well probably less reluctant to try these tactics, have fewer law firms willing to use them and their already piss poor reputation further besmirched. The effect on piracy negligible
Even if none of the above happens i can see this tactic having little impact on the problem of piracy