Karen White.

[keiwar]

New group at last (recovered from Karen White burn-out!).



ENJOY! ( only if you want to, it's not compulsory).

[woodgnome]

now added to group list.

[MegaTon]

They don't want to do the really explicit stuff most photographers and mag editor want these days. Plus a few of them have been rip-off, ie not paid for there work.

[Peter]

, We need models like her, and where are
> they???


"I wanna be in FHM"

"I wanna be a TV presenter"

[Peter]

And to prove a point, I've just recieved an e-mail from a prospective model.

"Thanks for your offer, but i'm really looking to be published in magazines like FHM......."

[keiwar]

I agree with you. It's not just about the explicit stuff, my Karen groups on yahoo have no h/c in them but have nonetheless still been very well recieved, i have had no negative feedback about the content whatsoever.It is a similar case with the model Claire Leng. only softcore solo and g/g, very nice natural girl but seems to have faded from the scene much to the anguish of a good mate of mine!!.

[DanG]

....whereas a model like Jo Guest could get in Loaded, Front or FHM, not in spite of, but instead because of her vast body of topshelf mag work...that is, after all, what makes her a 'legend'. Her other body doesn't hurt her chances either!

I do find it very odd to see postings from models on modelling forums stating that they are looking for work, followed by a list as long as your arm of what they don't do....and they wonder why they are looking for work? Some of them (especially the newer ones) seem to have a very unrealistic opinion of themselves and what sort of work they can likely expect to get, and indeed how much they can expect to be paid for it.

Again, I refer back to my analogy in the Michelle Marsh thread....UK has six times the population of Czech Rep., therefore it should be six times harder to find girls in Czech Rep. than it is in the UK....but a lot of our top glamour photographers now have studios out there or Budapest (Steve Colby, Kevin Maklin, Viv Thomas etc.). I think that these girls need someone to explain the laws of supply and demand for them. If you're not going to do topshelf work, then topshelf mags aren't going to run your pictures, and hence photographers who sell to topshelf mags aren't going to hire/pay you for photos they cannot sell....and that goes double for the huge internet market as well. Is there a successful paysite out there which only has FHM-style pics? If there is, I certainly haven't seen nor heard of it!

Ladies, If you won't do it, then it's another payday for Petra, Jana, and Lenka in Prague. Simple as that.

[Peter]

>
> I do find it very odd to see postings from models on modelling
> forums stating that they are looking for work, followed by a
> list as long as your arm of what they don't do....and they
> wonder why they are looking for work? Some of them (especially
> the newer ones) seem to have a very unrealistic opinion of
> themselves and what sort of work they can likely expect to get,
> and indeed how much they can expect to be paid for it.
>

Unfortuneatly, the net has become the domain of the time for prints w*nkers, who promise the girl anything she wants to hear, as long as she gets her tits out for them for free.

Thats why the model listing sites are full of 5' 3" fashion models, and girls who want to be in FHM who really have little chance of making a readers wife.

But when you tell them the truth, all you get back is "But I've been told...."