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harmonyluvver
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greenhouse effect

Post by harmonyluvver »

Over the past couple of nights I have been thinking about this particular problem. I keep coming to the same conclusion though....that global warming due to greenhouse gases is rubbish. Our planet has had major climate changes before and unless the dinosaurs were bombing about in their 4x4's and running their air con constantly it wasn't due to Co2 emmissions.
Yes I can see that extra gases in the atmosphere might trap heat for a bit longer but that heat surely dissipates naturally. I think that the planet might just have fluctuations in its temperature occasionally. Lets face it it is more advantageous for the government and lots of major companies to back the idea because it means lots of taxes and "new innovative ideas " which can have a hefty price tag slapped on because it has the word green included.
Maybe there is someone who has a view on this or more scientific knowledge. Would be grateful for other points of view.
Sam Slater
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Re: greenhouse effect

Post by Sam Slater »

[quote]Our planet has had major climate changes before and unless the dinosaurs were bombing about in their 4x4's and running their air con constantly it wasn't due to Co2 emmissions.[/quote]

Oh, but CO2 emissions probably did play their part in prehistoric climate changes, just not emitted from mechanical engines.

[quote]Yes I can see that extra gases in the atmosphere might trap heat for a bit longer but that heat surely dissipates naturally.[/quote]

Yes, that's true. The problem is: how much damage the heat causes before 'dissipating'.

[quote]Lets face it it is more advantageous for the government and lots of major companies to back the idea because it means lots of taxes and "new innovative ideas " which can have a hefty price tag slapped on because it has the word green included.[/quote]

Agreed. Politicians, governments and big business make money at every opportunity. That's the way the cookie crumbles I'm afraid, and I wish it was different. It doesn't, however, make the dangers of global warming a falsehood.

People forget that historic climate change probably extinguished hundreds of thousands of species..........we just weren't around to record it. This time we are, and the species we care about most are ourselves - naturally. Since we're the species causing it, we should be responsible for sorting it out, rather than being selfish, and telling all those intelligent, educated people that they're wrong and we've nothing to worry about.

Like I've said numerous times: It's the right thing to do, whether it's too late, or not.

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Steve R
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Re: greenhouse effect

Post by Steve R »

You are absolutely right, harmonyluvver, it is a load of rubbish.

Global warming has nothing whatsoever to do with CO2 emissions, but is caused solely by the sun.

Mars, for example, is currently experiencing global temperature fluctuation entirely commensurate with ours.

harmonyluvver
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Re: greenhouse effect

Post by harmonyluvver »

Absolutely no taxation rant at all, didn't realise I had an anti taxation thing going on. It was a genuine question as I had been thinking about it for a few days and really did wonder what other peoples stance on it was, it's good to hear what other people have to say it fires up the little grey cells. I agree whole heartedly that we have abused the planet and need to start treating it with more respect and also agree that Co2 emissions need to be cut. It really was just a question about whether people thought Co2 was behind global warming.
strictlybroadband
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Re: greenhouse effect

Post by strictlybroadband »

harmonyluvver wrote:

> Maybe there is someone who has a view on this or more
> scientific knowledge.

Maybe the world's leading 400 climate change scientists who wrote the recent IPCC climate change report knew something about climate science?

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Steve R
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Re: greenhouse effect

Post by Steve R »

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is thoroughly corrupt and interested only in lucrative "research grants".

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